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On A Serious Note
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
Some of you know that I lost my bank to last Saturday's raid. Lordy knows, Lee and Groedius know as well as many others (Darf L). I will (probably) compete in the skill olympics, but for now I've got to find a plan, and QUICK. My graduation for AF is coming up and I've also got to raid for WG as well.
If I quit, this will be the end.
Mebe.
By VEPHYSAURAS on 03/08/2009
Thats dramatic.
By David on 03/08/2009
Not trying to be mean or anything, but this is something you could have prevented. Gene has already made posts about stocking up on gear after each raid. We don't go out every night and I know from being idle in AF's Vent that they don't go out all the time either, so it's not like you're losing sets left and right.
However, I have no idea how you do spend your money, so I can't say you're not using it on sets. What I would advise is that you use some of the simple, guaranteed money making schemes (Green Dragons) and not rely on GWD or Corp because they rely heavily on luck.
Also, you shouldn't go inactive due to having to build up sets for AF. No dis to AF, but WG is your primary clan, so you should be here for us before you go off preparing for them. I'm in the same situation as you - AF FA and having to make sure I'm stocked up on sets for when my full Member app comes up, but I can't slide WG to the side to make sure I make it into some auxiliary team.
So, to help you out, I'd say go kill Green Dragons. You're maxed melee so it'll be easy. Grab some Prosylete and run to the Chaos Tunnels and go to the room with Greens and Baby Blacks. Slap on Protect from Melee and then just unleash on them. Don't bring a BoB as that'll make each trip last longer, and you might not be able to get a full invent on just your base prayer points.
Pot up at the bank (Super At, Super Str, Anti-fire). Bring just a Whip and a teleport tablet to your house (get prayer back there). Use a mounted glory to teleport to Edgeville, bank and then repeat. It takes about 5-7 minutes to kill 13 dragons (26 items hides+bones). You'll have one extra space (26+1 teletab = 27). You can kill a 14th dragon and grab the hide/bone (whichever is worth most) and leave the other on the ground. If you're fast, you can be back in time to pick it up.
You can make a good 400k per 100 bones+hides. That's 8 runs (14*8 = 112) @ 7 minutes each = 57 minutes. So about 400k an hour FOR SURE. Do that a few times a day and you've got sets.
Toss in some 76ks and you've got more sets. If you think you've got enough sets for a raid, attend my Arma Massacre and any other money making events Vephy hosts.
I suggest you put a little less effort into personal goals so you can focus on WG and to a lesser extent AF.
By Onathe on 03/08/2009
I agree with Colonel, Seriously Al whats with all these dramatic posts lately, Chill out man.
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Red_Buddas @ August 03, 2009 07:03 am) |
I agree with Colonel, Seriously Al whats with all these dramatic posts lately, Chill out man. |
sick of your lying shit, tbh
By George on 03/08/2009
QUOTE |
I suggest you put a little less effort into personal goals so you can focus on WG and to a lesser extent AF. |
WG has to take priority over AF.... so you must spend money on WG instead of on AF.
Yeah dramatic posts are bad.
Just go EP for a full day.. I got 4m EP'ing alone on Friday..
By David on 03/08/2009
Well technically spending on WG is spending on AF since all that is required is a screenshot, but yeah. Main concern is WG.
Al, talking like that really isn't necessary. How in the hell is he lying by saying he agrees with me...unless you know what he's thinking there really is no basis for that comment or that type of language.
Lately you HAVE been making needless posts pointing out topics that really have no standing and for what?
Just take a step back and get things in order. Think things through before you take the first step.
Just chill out for a bit.
By God Reports on 03/08/2009
You have money.. I gave you 30k once and you spent it all on construction and you showed me 900k in planks. Priorities
By Onathe on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 03:06 pm) |
QUOTE (Red_Buddas @ August 03, 2009 07:03 am) | I agree with Colonel, Seriously Al whats with all these dramatic posts lately, Chill out man. |
sick of your lying shit, tbh |
I don't lie, i see things how they are, and comment on them.
If you don't like it then tough luck. Your a good member of WG when you try, so why all of a sudden are you going all emo about everything, you like to make everything your problem even if it doesn't really concern you. You need to think things threw more before you post.
Preview post is a good thing too.
Just stop acting as if everyone is hating you, nobody hates you, they are just trying to help you out.
By VEPHYSAURAS on 03/08/2009
Al take some initiative and solve these problems on your own. The clan is here to help you yes. However there are numerous ways to make cash quickly. Work on having better foresight and planning skills.
By mtoise on 03/08/2009
You seem to put more effort into crying posts than anything else lately. People who try to disrupt clans don't tend to remain around too long, and like RB said people are not out to hate you, it's just they often do not like having a serial drama queen amongst their ranks.
By Bassism on 03/08/2009
I still don't understand how you lost all your sets on Saturday? Like, seriously, how did you die THAT many times?
By slayer123121 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ August 03, 2009 12:57 pm) |
I still don't understand how you lost all your sets on Saturday? Like, seriously, how did you die THAT many times? |
I suggest u ask owen/Mike for a lesson on how to tank or spots/tips etc cos if u can tank you'll hardly die sure now and again your gonna get caught binding or somat but most of the time espcially agaisnt clans outside the top 5 they'll just jump off you or won't hit you as much as others if u can tank decently.
If you keep getting 1 hit unfortunatly they're gonna target you more.
^Just my advice.
Pkin with the clan and losing sets is part of rs tho unfortunatly u gotta decide if you prefer personal goals or do you wanna be part of a clan and put them before your personal wealth.
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
some bullshit still idk what the FUCK you guys are on about

EDIT: all im saying is i dont have money atm so i may not attend a few events (temporary inactivity).
is that really that dramatizing/hard to understand?
By mtoise on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 08:30 pm) |
some bullshit still idk what the FUCK you guys are on about |
1. The apparent choosing AF over WG in terms of needs
2. The calling other members, and I quote "sick of your lying shit"
3. The sudden emergence of a supposed "hate culture" towards you which clearly does not exist.
4. Your seemingly want or need to make these type of topics.
That's what we are "on about"
I'm pretty sure you are not an attention seeking whore so why act like it? As I said in my previous topic to you, you are a member of WG, WG is not a member of you. You offer good things to the clan yet there is often a line that needn't be trodded near nevermind even on. People do not hate you.
As many people and members have said previously, if you have an issue then bring it up with the council, I'm sure they would be understanding. By not doing so and bringing it out to the clan in general it looks as if you are looking for sympathy, yet given points 1.2.3 and 4 above I'm pretty sure you are failing to achieve those objectives.
M
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (mtoise @ August 03, 2009 01:41 pm) |
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 08:30 pm) | some bullshit still idk what the FUCK you guys are on about |
1. The apparent choosing AF over WG in terms of needs
2. The calling other members, and I quote "sick of your lying shit"
3. The sudden emergence of a supposed "hate culture" towards you which clearly does not exist.
4. Your seemingly want or need to make these type of topics.
That's what we are "on about"
I'm pretty sure you are not an attention seeking whore so why act like it? As I said in my previous topic to you, you are a member of WG, WG is not a member of you. You offer good things to the clan yet there is often a line that needn't be trodded near nevermind even on. People do not hate you.
As many people and members have said previously, if you have an issue then bring it up with the council, I'm sure they would be understanding. By not doing so and bringing it out to the clan in general it looks as if you are looking for sympathy, yet given points 1.2.3 and 4 above I'm pretty sure you are failing to achieve those objectives.
M
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Your post fails? You know why? I appreciate you trying to help me, but all that you said is already contradicted in the forums.
I clearly, straightforwardly told Red Buddas this, emphasizing the "no offense".

I wanted to talk to JC through pm because he said he, with no doubt, agrees with Red. Now; I have been a friend of JC for a very long time. We have gotten very close and I don't remember ever getting into anything serious with him. For example, when I joked with Gorge saying I died and my grave needed to be blessed. After finding out I was kidding, he gave me a warn level for messing with him. That's serious. After JC agreed that I am a "faggot" and a person who "rants on wg forums for his life" I broke my friendship with him. Why am I sick of Red Buddas's lying shit? Because he acts like he is my friend, when he tells me in my face (quotes above). I never planned on attacking him. I was merely pissed off because I wasn't able to get mentorship before. I congratulated him afterwards and told him I was sure he would be a great mentor, along with Sgt. And AF, no where in my post says I put AF over WG. How many raids have I been to with WG? And how many events I have been to for AF for the past month? I won't go on anymore with this, the statistics show that my activity are mostly on WG forums. I am not an attention whore, and it is not someone I plan on being, don't give me bullshit about that because you're the one who clicked on the topic.
By mtoise on 03/08/2009
No where in you post you mention putting AF over WG?
"My graduation for AF is coming up and I've also got to raid for WG as well. "
Make of that what you want.
You seem like you just want to argue and try to make other seem the bad boy, when in-fact that is quite the contrary.
By saying "my post fails" it shows that on the original outset your argument was going to be and indeed would be full of flaws.
"Why am I sick of Red Buddas's lying shit? Because he acts like he is my friend, when he tells me in my face (quotes above). I never planned on attacking him. I was merely pissed off because I wasn't able to get mentorship before"
You never planned on attacking. Well unless you have a speedy 1000 words a second typing speed and incredible reaction speed and a useless use of the edit button, I see that you have had plenty of time to "revoke" this attack on him and thus not bringing it to the attention of the clan.
Also are you insinuating that I am an attention whore for clicking on the topic that "you" made r.e bitching about things "you" don't like. Oh the irony.
By Bassism on 03/08/2009
I don't even know what this topic is about anymore...
PS. See avatar
By ThisIsUnique on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 03:58 pm) |
QUOTE (mtoise @ August 03, 2009 01:41 pm) | QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 08:30 pm) | some bullshit still idk what the FUCK you guys are on about |
1. The apparent choosing AF over WG in terms of needs
2. The calling other members, and I quote "sick of your lying shit"
3. The sudden emergence of a supposed "hate culture" towards you which clearly does not exist.
4. Your seemingly want or need to make these type of topics.
That's what we are "on about"
I'm pretty sure you are not an attention seeking whore so why act like it? As I said in my previous topic to you, you are a member of WG, WG is not a member of you. You offer good things to the clan yet there is often a line that needn't be trodded near nevermind even on. People do not hate you.
As many people and members have said previously, if you have an issue then bring it up with the council, I'm sure they would be understanding. By not doing so and bringing it out to the clan in general it looks as if you are looking for sympathy, yet given points 1.2.3 and 4 above I'm pretty sure you are failing to achieve those objectives.
M
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Your post fails? You know why? I appreciate you trying to help me, but all that you said is already contradicted in the forums. I clearly, straightforwardly told Red Buddas this, emphasizing the "no offense".  I wanted to talk to JC through pm because he said he, with no doubt, agrees with Red. Now; I have been a friend of JC for a very long time. We have gotten very close and I don't remember ever getting into anything serious with him. For example, when I joked with Gorge saying I died and my grave needed to be blessed. After finding out I was kidding, he gave me a warn level for messing with him. That's serious. After JC agreed that I am a "faggot" and a person who "rants on wg forums for his life" I broke my friendship with him. Why am I sick of Red Buddas's lying shit? Because he acts like he is my friend, when he tells me in my face (quotes above). I never planned on attacking him. I was merely pissed off because I wasn't able to get mentorship before. I congratulated him afterwards and told him I was sure he would be a great mentor, along with Sgt. And AF, no where in my post says I put AF over WG. How many raids have I been to with WG? And how many events I have been to for AF for the past month? I won't go on anymore with this, the statistics show that my activity are mostly on WG forums. I am not an attention whore, and it is not someone I plan on being, don't give me bullshit about that because you're the one who clicked on the topic. |
So why are you posting this then? why calling us names when we looked to help you, because we clicked the link and said what we thought? That is the worst excuse. Also, u said u died alot on a certain raid, but yet i see you in screenies with 1brew?! U must know u should have 3-5 brews in inventory to tank a clan... SHARK BREW??
ever heard of that
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (mtoise @ August 03, 2009 02:11 pm) |
No where in you post you mention putting AF over WG?
"My graduation for AF is coming up and I've also got to raid for WG as well. "
Make of that what you want.
You seem like you just want to argue and try to make other seem the bad boy, when in-fact that is quite the contrary.
By saying "my post fails" it shows that on the original outset your argument was going to be and indeed would be full of flaws.
"Why am I sick of Red Buddas's lying shit? Because he acts like he is my friend, when he tells me in my face (quotes above). I never planned on attacking him. I was merely pissed off because I wasn't able to get mentorship before"
You never planned on attacking. Well unless you have a speedy 1000 words a second typing speed and incredible reaction speed and a useless use of the edit button, I see that you have had plenty of time to "revoke" this attack on him and thus not bringing it to the attention of the clan.
Also are you insinuating that I am an attention whore for clicking on the topic that "you" made r.e bitching about things "you" don't like. Oh the irony. |
yo breath stank L
By mtoise on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 09:17 pm) |
QUOTE (mtoise @ August 03, 2009 02:11 pm) | No where in you post you mention putting AF over WG?
"My graduation for AF is coming up and I've also got to raid for WG as well. "
Make of that what you want.
You seem like you just want to argue and try to make other seem the bad boy, when in-fact that is quite the contrary.
By saying "my post fails" it shows that on the original outset your argument was going to be and indeed would be full of flaws.
"Why am I sick of Red Buddas's lying shit? Because he acts like he is my friend, when he tells me in my face (quotes above). I never planned on attacking him. I was merely pissed off because I wasn't able to get mentorship before"
You never planned on attacking. Well unless you have a speedy 1000 words a second typing speed and incredible reaction speed and a useless use of the edit button, I see that you have had plenty of time to "revoke" this attack on him and thus not bringing it to the attention of the clan.
Also are you insinuating that I am an attention whore for clicking on the topic that "you" made r.e bitching about things "you" don't like. Oh the irony. |
yo breath stank L
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And that reply sums up what we are dealing with...........
By Onathe on 03/08/2009
EDIT: Cba to argue with the muppet anymore.
By Nick on 03/08/2009

Get your shit straight and come back. You knew that you would be risking more when you joined AF, so you should have prepared by having that much more money and sets.
By Bassism on 03/08/2009
Officially leaving the thread...
By Back to Own on 03/08/2009
Don't see why this is needed.
Money is easy to make, it shouldn't be too hard.
Pay closely to what leaders call and you should survive for the most part.
Since I started making p2p raids, there have only been 2 or 3 raids over the spam of
several months where people actually lost money or barely profited.
I don't see how you could have lost that many sets not maging

.
You have plenty of time, theres no need to panic.
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:36 pm) |

Get your shit straight and come back. You knew that you would be risking more when you joined AF, so you should have prepared by having that much more money and sets. |
Nick, I had 5m cash and 15 p2p/10 f2p sets when I applied for AF.
Not to mention the money I got from hunting and 76k's.
Addition: thanks bto
By Nick on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 04:48 pm) |
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:36 pm) | Get your shit straight and come back. You knew that you would be risking more when you joined AF, so you should have prepared by having that much more money and sets. |
Nick, I had 5m cash and 15 p2p/10 f2p sets when I applied for AF.
Not to mention the money I got from hunting and 76k's.
Addition: thanks bto
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So you lost all of that on a few raids? If you are a decent tank, you shouldn't lose but 500k or so max on a raid; if you lose any at all.
By Onathe on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 10:52 pm) |
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 04:48 pm) | QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:36 pm) | Get your shit straight and come back. You knew that you would be risking more when you joined AF, so you should have prepared by having that much more money and sets. |
Nick, I had 5m cash and 15 p2p/10 f2p sets when I applied for AF.
Not to mention the money I got from hunting and 76k's.
Addition: thanks bto
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So you lost all of that on a few raids? If you are a decent tank, you shouldn't lose but 500k or so max on a raid; if you lose any at all.
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Maybe he should have attended some of BTO's tanking events
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:52 pm) |
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 04:48 pm) | QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:36 pm) | Get your shit straight and come back. You knew that you would be risking more when you joined AF, so you should have prepared by having that much more money and sets. |
Nick, I had 5m cash and 15 p2p/10 f2p sets when I applied for AF.
Not to mention the money I got from hunting and 76k's.
Addition: thanks bto
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So you lost all of that on a few raids? If you are a decent tank, you shouldn't lose but 500k or so max on a raid; if you lose any at all.
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over the course of 1-2 months, yeas
tbh i know how to tank, although in situations where you accidentally run into, or even just go in, a cluster of 20, you really dont have a choice
By David on 03/08/2009
Honestly Al, we're here trying to help you get straightened out. Just because people are saying you fucked up at one point or another doesn't mean they are against you - it just means they're trying to point something out and help you realize a mistake.
All you're doing is MAKING people dislike you by responding with dumbass comments. We're being serious and you're joking around - does this show your real attitude toward WG?
What I'm saying is don't be so goddamn defensive when we're all here to help because all it does is make people WANT to see you get screwed over. Listen to people that are pointing out your faults and try to fix them.
You shouldn't even be going into temporary inactivity due to not having sets or money. Making money is something you do on your time, and buying stuff is something you do on your time. You KNEW full well that we were going more into P2P so you should have at LEAST had what the gear requirements listed plus more due to being an AF FA.
The point is that you knew what you had to have, but instead of making sure to keep up, you spent it on other things. Construction, RC, whatever it was, it's now gone and you're without sets, and I don't think it's acceptable to say "Hm...not gonna attend any events because I need money..."
I need money, but I don't have to go into temporary inactivity for reasons like this because I make sure when I DO have money I top up my sets. Keep up with or above the required gear requirements.
Personally, I'd interpret you being online during any event as event skipping as this really isn't a valid excuse. In this day and age in RS, making money is a joke if you're serious about it. You can make 10M+ just EPing the entire day - at 25% each set of kills.
We've got money making events being hosted this week, I think it'd be good you try to make them...
By Big Al 002 on 03/08/2009
mebe
colonel: i appreciate what you're doing but what has been done is done
i dont take back any of the things i said, going to end it here.
By slayer123121 on 04/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 04:55 pm) |
QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:52 pm) | QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 03, 2009 04:48 pm) | QUOTE (Lefty2802 @ August 03, 2009 02:36 pm) | Get your shit straight and come back. You knew that you would be risking more when you joined AF, so you should have prepared by having that much more money and sets. |
Nick, I had 5m cash and 15 p2p/10 f2p sets when I applied for AF.
Not to mention the money I got from hunting and 76k's.
Addition: thanks bto
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So you lost all of that on a few raids? If you are a decent tank, you shouldn't lose but 500k or so max on a raid; if you lose any at all.
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over the course of 1-2 months, yeas tbh i know how to tank, although in situations where you accidentally run into, or even just go in, a cluster of 20, you really dont have a choice |
*Points to my previous post* U can tank 20 people in your sleep, You got some Pro's in the clan i suggest u watch/ask them what they do different. Will save u tons of money/sets and help you have more fun.
Advice take it as you wish ^^
By David on 04/08/2009
Over the course of 1-2 months...you didn't decide to buy more sets? How long were you going to rely on those 15 P2P sets? In 1-2 months even with deaths you should have been buying more sets to make sure you're ready at any time.
And personally don't take kindly to this "Mebe" bullshit. "Mebe" what? "Mebe" you'll use the opportunities we're giving you? "Mebe" you'll put in more effort?
This is ALL on you, just keep that in mind. We're making events for you to attend to build EP for 76ks or make money via boss hunting. It's up to you to stop working on your personal goals and make the damn money.
It's not hard...it's really not that hard.
By Big Al 002 on 04/08/2009
well then **** wg...

totally kidding of course but..yeah
By JC on 04/08/2009
QUOTE |
I wanted to talk to JC through pm because he said he, with no doubt, agrees with Red. Now; I have been a friend of JC for a very long time. We have gotten very close and I don't remember ever getting into anything serious with him. For example, when I joked with Gorge saying I died and my grave needed to be blessed. After finding out I was kidding, he gave me a warn level for messing with him. That's serious. After JC agreed that I am a "faggot" and a person who "rants on wg forums for his life" I broke my friendship with him. |
LOL, what?
I never said you were a faggot, and in that whole conversation I made it quite clear what my issue is, and its with these kind of posts Al. You seem to WANT to create drama/rants whenever you can, this thread being a good example.
If you thought I said you were a faggot why didn't you ask for clarification rather than bringing it up this way? this is a thread about why you can't raid/are short of money atm, and nothing related to the 'Mentorship' issue that I can see? It really does seem that you like to make a big drama from nothing.
But since you decided to make an issue of it, I will make an issue back.
You seem to be unable to talk throught your issues with anyone, ever, without making what appears to be an attention seeking post. In this case, if you'd asked me what I meant I would have made it clear that this was not what I intended nor what I think.
I don't know where the 'I have been friends with JC for a long time' comes from, a long time for me is like.... years, not a couple of months. The fact that you were so willing to 'break' said friendship because you mis-understood something shows how petty and inmature you are, and hence I am glad for that.
I didn't think you're a faggot, but frankly, I think you're a drama queen. Maybe they mean the same thing?
By David on 04/08/2009
QUOTE (Big Al 002 @ August 04, 2009 01:57 am) |
well then **** wg...

totally kidding of course but..yeah |
GREAT!
That's practically our entire required gear list.
Now you've no reason to be inactive.
May I lock this topic for you?
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