Keanu's departure

For those who'll post a reply composing of "good riddance" I'll spare the theatrics. I will be departing from the WG community for quite a while, meaning no event attendance, no IRC and no more forum posts from me for quite a long time.

But that's really what I expect.

I'd like to give a mention to our old friend Mugger84. Mug and I are two very similar individuals. We both have certain characteristics that reflect both positively and negatively on WG under different circumstances, and we are aware of that. Of course, Mug is banned, and so I thought I should stop and think a bit before I end up the same way.

For instance, the concept of obsession. Obsession is an opinion, based on perspective. The claim is that I have an obsession with WG, which in some cases I agree with but for the most part it gives a negative impression. I don't agree with it. Training from scratch to join WG? The Sabres do it, it's just a way to show dedication. Forum activity? Sure the quality of my posts could be improved but 650 posts from a normal member in such a short frame of time would be smiled upon. The post-its? Praised for commitment from anyone with Guardian rank or higher. The IRC and RS applets? An amazing show of dedication and effort when coming from a member of the clan.

But for a clan friend, it's an obsession.

One step short of obsessed - passionate. A lot of the time I'm not as mature as I should be or have the level of common sense I'd like, but in the clan world I have the one thing that makes up for it - dedication. As I said in my epically long testimonial, I don't feel like a friend or guest of the clan, but a member of the community. And some people have recognised it, but well... you know me and my reputation here.

Which is where Mug's mention comes in. Like my dedication is my characteristic, his is his pride. It worked when he was a WG member, but when he joined DF it backfired upon him. My dedication would work well in WG, but on the outside it's frowned upon. The big factor, however, is how we as the subjects react to it. My dedication is the one thing that makes me who I am, and I can't change that. Mug said the same for his personality and tried to defend it while remaining a part of the community.

He got banned.

So finally I've realised that if who I am is not appreciated in the community, then I shouldn't be in the community. After all, a member of any clan should always try to do their best to make sure they don't hinder their clanmates' enjoyment and involvement in it as well. Maybe one or two people don't mind, but the majority of WG will agree with me when I say I'm not an asset to WG at the moment.

So I've come to an agreement with Darth, who will reset my post count to 2 (One for my intro, one for this topic) and revoke all my posting rights until either I meet the requirements to apply for membership in WG, or the circumstances change and require my activity. As long as my departure from WG will benefit the clan, I have no regrets about it.

Sorry for the long post. I have a habit of writing out pages and pages when there's an important topic to share. So to end this, I wish Gene and all of the Wilderness Guardians the very best of luck for a long and enjoyable future, and thank you for the opportunity to experience it for myself. If WG is still around when I catch up to the reqs, I look forward to returning and hopefully with some more common sense and maturity Until then...

-Keanu

Seeing as I was in a clan with you before WG I never saw you as an annoying forum troll. I saw you as the person behind the computer and I have always thought and still think you are a nice guy. It may be a a bit.. over commited to start a new account but surely if commitment is a good thing, over commitment must be a good thing too.

Just go and fucking train :@

Na you're sound imo, I'll see you when you get back

Well it's an active poster gone, there isn't much more to it in my eyes. I've learned to ignore the things I dislike in people and not argue about them over the years, but it's a skill some WG members lack.

My opinion on you hardly matters since I'm an ex-member however, I don't particularly like or dislike you.

I'll just leave a quote from the ex-members lounge here. No idea why and if you feel it's inappropriate feel free to revoke my ex-member rank.

I usually enjoy your posts and will miss reading them tbh. I do however get the issue that you are still not a member of WG after all this time but I figured that would eventually change.

Go train please and come back when you can intro.

I hope to see you intro some time.

will miss you man

hope to see you keep fighting to get in wg

if you need any combat training advice just message me

Don't compare yourself to Mugger.
He was a real dick.
You have no idea.

It was really brutal how some people attacked your dedication.
I'll be revising old posts and finding out who exactly did.
Hope to see you in the not too distant future.

^ this

Please don't compare yourself to Mugger, he wasn't even good when he was here. Some people were just fooled by him. Your heart is in the right place.

I see you as someone that has real dedication. It can be a bit much, but I don't really mind all your posts. They make me giggle and add to the forum. Don't let a few people with little patience bring you down.

I really hope you reconsider the deal and stay active with us. Each of us has our own personality and blend to make the community stronger than if we all thought alike. I'm not strong in combat, but yet I somehow fit in here in my own way.

Your already one of us, just train now to get the rank.

Rachy

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To be honest mate, don't give up..

Sometimes you just have to face something that doesn't seem fair. When this happens, take your time to restituate and then climb back on the horse. Everything isn't glitter and glamour and nobody shouldn't back out when the shit is on fire..

Tbh I haven't really been keeping track of the situation leading you to this decision, but what I know is that you've dedicated yourself alot to become a member of the clan. Therefore it's sad to see you've decided what you did.

I hope you'll come back to post an intro the day you're ready for it. I know it's a tough road, but with your dedication it shouldn't take so long. This comes from someone who's not meeting the reqs either. You're doing a hell of a job.. That's my say..

Keep it up!

Dallar, the king of the Gnome Stronghold Yew trees

Keanu, you are nothing like Mugger. The comparison is interesting, but he wasn't a nice guy. I think when you finally get the requirements you will be a great member. It will show the people that have made fun of you're numerous posts here that there is more to you. I have to admit to making jokes about it as well little bit and looking down on you. I think you proved me wrong today though, thank you. Good luck.

Keanu,
The people who doubt your commitment to this clan, even before being able to join it, deserve to be lynched... and they will be as soon as the staff finish checking back through old topics.
THe way some people have treated you is shocking... just shocking and I apologise for the stupidity of much of mankind.
I hope you reconsider, I value your opinions and I really enjoy your company on IRC, forums, and in game... so please don't leave us now.

Forget about those idiots who treated you like dirt... let the Council deal with them. If you leave, they win.... stand up to the bully, don't make him victorious.

Please stay

~George

Yeah...comparing yourself to Mugger is not the way to go.

I think what did it for you is you just came across a little to strong and a little to vocal, and I'm sure you can understand how that can be a deciding factor for people when it comes to clans. "How can you speak with authority on MY clan when you're not in it," kind of deal.

Some might call you a troll, and it's possible they're right, but at least you had stuff to say that was more or less discussion worthy. Sure you may write long posts (I do the same *sigh*) and I made a little joke about it ("Summarized") but don't let it get to you.

Your heart is definitely in the right place I just think you didn't communicate your intentions in a way that some might want to accept.

Regardless, you said August was your hardcore combat training month. Stick to it, get training and apply when you've met our requirements.

Good luck.

Mickey you're not helping at all.
You're trying to preach to me and I don't like it.

I honestly tried backing you up and being nice to you quite a few times because I was amazed by what you had shown to WG as far as dedication.

Not going to lie, you did get a bit obsessive with some of your posting habits on the forums. In heart, I know that it was all for WG though. Because of this, I did try to support you and also not flame bait like many others though.

I hope to see you in WG when your account meets the requirements.
Keep us updated at the very least.

Heh, fixation isn't much of a problem. You're definitely a curious individual imo but that goes for most everybody here already. From what I've seen you've simply used your interest in WG to practice and test your skills in many different areas, both ingame, with programming/coding, etc. I remember Robbie mentioning he liked what you were coming up with and could probably give you a few useful pointers, that right there is a golden opportunity to pick up a few things.

You've landed at the short end of the stick with this whole thing so far but I'm impressed on how you're handling it; imo you've shown more restraint and maturity with this post than most WG members ever show in their entire clan careers. I like you, and I think you should do what you want with this. If you want to be in WG despite our being much less than perfect, persevere. The people who matter will respect you for it, whether you decide to stay or pursue options elsewhere.

I don't play RS at all anymore, but if you ever come to WoW look me up. From what I've seen you'd make an excellent raider.

Daww Keanu D:
You were just like a normal member in my eyes

Our most active by far. Dont do this please D:

You were a great addition to our clan

Because of this post you are looking much more mature then u used to. I always thought u were strange but dedicated. Altho some of ur posts made me headbang irl , some posts like this r rlly good , but dont mess up the fun topics with serious topics. I noticed u have been training now, keep going.

I'll be honest I'm not really active on these forums and I'd usually ignore some of your posts because no offense, you make some damn long essays lol. Same story was with my good ol' david (colonel) in the past

If I were you though, I'd think this over 2-3 days before making a decision, its best to not do something that you'll regret in the long run.

I know alot of WG members disliked you, but in my opinion you were alright. When I pmed you to ask for you to change your attitude, you did, but many WG members still continued to hold their old hatred. I enjoyed reading many of your posts.You are way different from mugger; he was obssessed with power and his ego.

In my opinion, you deserved better. You put forth a great effort and I respect you for that, and I know that your intentions were good.

Hopefully you change your mind to stay, and we can give you a fresh start.

Um dont approve.
Where the hell am i going to keep in contact with you lol.
Your enjoyable to listen too in IRC