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EARTH HOUR 2008, 29 March Saturday

By Valdremia on 29/03/2008
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INFORMATION:
Date: March 29, 2008. Saturday, 8pm.
Venue: Earth
Official website and countdown clock: http://www.earthhour.org/

2 VIDEOS of several:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxu3MluKl8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE3WPIKYkuc

You can find out more when you google.

In 2007 and NEWS REPORT
What happened in 2007: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9GRh_9sQBw

This post is probably out of the blue. But it's not a game. It's not a party...well, almost a party. But an attempt in global movement started right in the heart of Sydney on March 2007, that spurred the movement to spread across more and more cities.

And if you're not aware, its called Earth Hour. A Global event to play a part in making an effort to improve what's haunting our dear Earth. It will happen on every March of every year to come.

You don't need to be a billionaire to do this, you don't need give anything in the cause but only just a little effort that can make a huge difference collectively. All that's needed is that you switch off all lights and electricities during this one hour. Even if its just your room, anything, its the thought behind it that counts.

The movement was consigned by WWF and the idea was initiated and given birth by a creative idea company working with WWF. The number of countries, cities and companies have grown substantially over the year, taking part in this meaningful cause.

So, whip out your candles and enjoy the moonlight, wherever you are. Even if your city is not a part of its sign up, it doesn't matter, little steps goes a large distance.

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The cities that have officially signed up to take part in this Event involves Aalborg » Aarhus » Adelaide » Atlanta » Bangkok » Bogota » Brisbane » Canberra » Chicago » Christchurch » Copenhagen » Darwin » Dublin » Hobart » Manila » Melbourne » Montreal » Odense » Ottawa » Perth » Phoenix » San Francisco » Santa Cruz » Suva and Lautoka » Sydney » Tel Aviv » Toronto » Vancouver....
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So, dear all, do what you can for this cause. And if you don't support it and find it not worthwhile or even stupid, know that to the least, its not pointless. And for those who go with it, a heartfelt thanks.

P.S. Btw, I can't center align the logo or anything now sad.gif so pardon the presentation and thank you.

By Gibble00 on 29/03/2008
So did Sydney do this for the first time last year or has this been going on even longer than that?

It'd be cool if enough people participated in the big cities.

By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 29/03/2008
Sounds cool. I'll try to do it if I can get the timing right!

By Mickey on 29/03/2008
It will be imposible for me because I have a borhter who has no life and either plays my Xbox or my PC untill like midnight every single day..

By Robertw56 on 29/03/2008
I'll see what I can do, even if it's just turning my computer and bedroom light off.

By Job is God on 29/03/2008
If my parents arn't in, I'll cut the power smile.gif

By Valdremia on 29/03/2008
Well Gibb, Sydney did this for the first time last year. And it took to the stage by storm. The event is shown in that 2007 vid. It was a blackout in Sydney then including businesses' buildings, even HP, Coca Cola, McDonalds etc took part. It set an example for an unthinkable idea that eventually happened. It was a success and now copied by more cities.

The guy who came up with this idea is in his 30s. He gave a talk about his experience, and I remembered he said, when he told some people about it, they told him "good luck". No one believed he could pull it off. And look what happened.

Very inspiring talk it was, just goes to show if you believe in something and stick with it one step at a time for the right cause, dreams can happen.

Finished my Earth Hour not long ago at my side of the world. It's a refreshing experience. A pity not the whole city yet took part at where I came from this year. No electricity, no lights, no TV etc just candlelights. It's only an hour but it makes you realised how much our lives are surrounded by electricals and energy consumption. That experience makes you think, what do we really do without all these. Imagine how its like in the past and places today that does not use the things we do, living in the cities and towns.

Thanks guys smile.gif you're making a difference, setting examples and playing a part with the rest of world and cities that believed in doing something beautiful to save the environment, every effort means a huge collective result. Its ok Madd, the thought really counts and in the future when you get to have your own place/choose its never too late to participate smile.gif

They are encouraging this to more and more cities around the world, and is slowly becoming a global event. Anyone can help to organize this in their city/town, they provide guides on how to on their websites. This is a beginning starting from baby steps for a giant cause to the future thumbsup.gif.

By Parth23 Jani on 29/03/2008
Valdremia you sexy thing @hash.png!@hash.png$

By Firelion08 on 29/03/2008
Yeah, San Francisco.

I participate when it's convenient... But other than that, it usually escapes my attention. I'll read a little more into it.

By Elyxiatic on 29/03/2008
Hmm, ya I did that last night.
Playing rs in the dark is fun biggrin.gif

By Job is God on 29/03/2008
QUOTE (Mathsnerd18 @ March 29, 2008 09:57 pm)
Hmm, ya I did that last night.
Playing rs in the dark is fun  biggrin.gif

You were meant to turn your pc off.
rolleyes.gif

By Firelion08 on 29/03/2008
QUOTE (Job is God @ March 29, 2008 10:01 pm)
QUOTE (Mathsnerd18 @ March 29, 2008 09:57 pm)
Hmm, ya I did that last night.
Playing rs in the dark is fun  biggrin.gif

You were meant to turn your pc off.
rolleyes.gif

Nu-uh... It's the thought that counts. Besides, something is better than nothing - in this case. neko2.gif

By Elyxiatic on 29/03/2008
QUOTE (Firelion08 @ March 29, 2008 10:06 pm)
QUOTE (Job is God @ March 29, 2008 10:01 pm)
QUOTE (Mathsnerd18 @ March 29, 2008 09:57 pm)
Hmm, ya I did that last night.
Playing rs in the dark is fun  biggrin.gif

You were meant to turn your pc off.
rolleyes.gif

Nu-uh... It's the thought that counts. Besides, something is better than nothing - in this case. neko2.gif

Rs is an important element in human growth - Maffs, 2008.
Oh well, my mum was like "only turn the lights off".
How did we now the exact time to turn them off w/o the tv on? hash.png

By Colinwarrior on 29/03/2008
I'm going to use twice as much electricity.


Lol, JK..but I really don't use that much on a daily basis..pretty much just my computer and a lamp or two..and maybe a fan..don't watch much TV anymore or have anything else going really..

By Quikdrawjoe on 30/03/2008
Posted this too late but I happened to see it on Google in time, so went to dinner instead. tongue.gif

By Gibble00 on 30/03/2008
I actually participated cool.gif. Well, I was at my friend's house and his family did it tongue.gif.

Props to all who participated cool.gif.

By Kiwi011 on 31/03/2008
its kind of sad it failed...

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewb...ashes_to_earth/

but seriously, I think earth hour will do more than Gore....who i bet keeps 200 of the 300million for himself.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...3001880_pf.html

By Tnuac on 02/04/2008
Lol, would've participated but I wasn't in the house anyway =p

The previous one was an epic fail, and it seems this didn't go too well either, which is a shame.

It sickens me when people deliberately turn on all their appliances in spite. Its those sort of people who should be paying double for their energy. They have no point to prove; only that they're ignorant to mankind and the environment.

By Pseudomage0 on 02/04/2008
I will participate in this actually in my room lol doubt my parents will turn off all lights lol

By Valdremia on 02/04/2008
Well, I would think where success is rated it depends on what scale we are talking about. And it would be more justified if I had made it clearer about the 2007 event.

The target of the project was meant to hit a 5% energy use in reduction, to stay at a certain point of being realistic. Not expecting a total lights out, but doing whatever possible as much as possible to promote the idea. However, the participation were rather obvious during 2007, I'll put some simple and casual links:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-b8n20ub6_0&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xiy6bFxuSJI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CVWFxDtERn8&feature=related

Personally I would try not to gauge it as a complete failure as oppose to anything between failure to success. But rather, it is taking baby steps because it happened enough to cause more participations across cities.

There were different analysis and critics to such a movement, most notably controversial critics such as Andrew Bolt, cited via Kiwi's reference, as so I've learnt. But it doesn't mean each side is arguing from pure speculations.

After some reading, from the fact that the percentile reports varies from one comment to another and not a solid gauge, seemed to me - the results can be fairly figurative but would be fairer to say, the range was 2.1% to 10.2% (as reported so far) in energy reduction from what happened in Sydney 2007, dubbed a good degree of success.

On a positive note, IMO Earth Hour 2008 in a broader perspective did more than Earth Hour 2007, for having trickled to more cities taking part. But it fell short by per city, although not all. A little more detailed report about E.H.2007 right to E.H.2008 is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour.

It would be quite lame to defend the cause from a completely subjective POV but since it has not only the purpose of trying to bring an emotional message but also with a long reach towards what we know isn't right - then I would choose to handle this more sentimentally. Even to Al Gore's campaigns.

Yet, I do believe, if one bothers to do it, you will. Cared enough, you will - however minute and insignificant behind a large cause. But to be fair, I only say so to those who can choose or allowed to do what we'd like to do, whenever given the chance. And that minute significance? - one switch.

I've read comments on other open forums. The truth is, it is sad to see insults flinging at a purpose trying to do something. It's puzzling to usually see trends like these happen to almost all other good causes. And there are those who complained its useless. But yes, it is useless if you do nothing anyway, hence making it worse minutely insignificant by doing nothing becoming collectively damaging...so what gives you the right to even say its useless? Ironic. Fine, then nobody does anything. Or "I don't have to do anything, its stupid...its insignificant anyway...not happening in my lifetime, who cares". I can't help but think - how more ironically lame can that get?

It's just very strange how negative attitudes can be. It is even more strange, if I do not question integrities, how much people can stomp on encouragements trying to improve the very thing that sustained life for us, Earth. It can get so critically funny. Maybe, because the pinch of the damage isn't hard enough yet, but when it does in time to come, it just mean its too late. I just know, regrets like these when they come they don't give second chances.

Oh, and yup props to all who did it, and the 4 Hamsters in Sydney 2007 where it started cool.gif .

By Firelion08 on 02/04/2008
Humans aren't naturally peaceful creatures.
Generally, we are capable of 'peace'. But it can only truly be sustained through knowledge and understanding. Without these things, 'peace' is merely a lie; a way to stall the future conflicts.

That's just something that sprung off the top of my head. I didn't really put much thought into it, so excuse me if it sounds like complete garbage.


As for the cause...
I understand what it stands for. If we're killing the Earth, by all means, let's stop what we're doing now (preferably without killing ourselves in the process)... But when you add a politician into the equation, it somehow becomes less convincing... It does to me, at least.

I generally don't trust politicians.
Of course, there are the exceptions... However, Al Gore is not one of them.


In anticipation to the possible argument that Al Gore has little to do with it... I will say that (1) Al Gore has a lot to do with it, and (2) I do what I need to do with my waste anyway; I'm no litterbug. Take the implications into consideration.

I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself ~

By Tnuac on 03/04/2008
QUOTE
As for the cause...
I understand what it stands for. If we're killing the Earth, by all means, let's stop what we're doing now (preferably without killing ourselves in the process)... But when you add a politician into the equation, it somehow becomes less convincing... It does to me, at least.

I generally don't trust politicians.
Of course, there are the exceptions... However, Al Gore is not one of them.


In anticipation to the possible argument that Al Gore has little to do with it... I will say that (1) Al Gore has a lot to do with it, and (2) I do what I need to do with my waste anyway; I'm no litterbug. Take the implications into consideration.

I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself ~


Global warming is not about Al Gore. That's like saying Einstein invented science. Everyone knows that Al Gore is a hypocrit, and that he makes unsupported assumptions in his movie, along with poor information (except, there are still quite a lot of valid points in the movie).

Al Gore is put on centre stage because 1) he's a political figure and 2) he got highlighted by the media, along with making his own film. There are thousands of top scientists and scientifical organisations who would tell you global warming is a real danger, but they don't generally 'put themselves out there'. By taking action against human-induced climate change (and of course, contribution to smog, toxic ozone, and acid rain), you are not following Al Gore but the whole movement that Al Gore only played a minor role in it.

Al Gore seems to 'have a lot to do with it' because critics and internet-based skeptics quote him all the time pretending he's the only one in belief of AGW.

By Firelion08 on 03/04/2008
QUOTE (Tnuac @ April 03, 2008 08:15 pm)
QUOTE
As for the cause...
I understand what it stands for. If we're killing the Earth, by all means, let's stop what we're doing now (preferably without killing ourselves in the process)... But when you add a politician into the equation, it somehow becomes less convincing... It does to me, at least.

I generally don't trust politicians.
Of course, there are the exceptions... However, Al Gore is not one of them.


In anticipation to the possible argument that Al Gore has little to do with it... I will say that (1) Al Gore has a lot to do with it, and (2) I do what I need to do with my waste anyway; I'm no litterbug. Take the implications into consideration.

I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself ~


Global warming is not about Al Gore. That's like saying Einstein invented science. Everyone knows that Al Gore is a hypocrit, and that he makes unsupported assumptions in his movie, along with poor information (except, there are still quite a lot of valid points in the movie).

Al Gore is put on centre stage because 1) he's a political figure and 2) he got highlighted by the media, along with making his own film. There are thousands of top scientists and scientifical organisations who would tell you global warming is a real danger, but they don't generally 'put themselves out there'. By taking action against human-induced climate change (and of course, contribution to smog, toxic ozone, and acid rain), you are not following Al Gore but the whole movement that Al Gore only played a minor role in it.

Al Gore seems to 'have a lot to do with it' because critics and internet-based skeptics quote him all the time pretending he's the only one in belief of AGW.

Which is exactly why I really can't trust everything I hear... Because a good percentage of it (these days) is influenced by politics; Al gore.

I care for the planet...
But do you understand what I'm trying to get at?

By Tnuac on 04/04/2008
Yeah, course I understand. Its a debate which is not only a very disputed topic in science, but politics has made it even worse, to the point that people don't know which sources they can trust, and which to give more creditablility. However, there's still a lot of good science on either side of the debate which has nothing to do with Al Gore, and that's the science that should be observed.

Anyway, aside from the scientific + political spiral, the best thing for us folk to do is to live sustainably and increase our awareness of the possible threats.



By Valdremia on 06/04/2008
QUOTE (Firelion08 @ April 02, 2008 09:15 pm)
Humans aren't naturally peaceful creatures.
Generally, we are capable of 'peace'. But it can only truly be sustained through knowledge and understanding. Without these things, 'peace' is merely a lie; a way to stall the future conflicts.

That's just something that sprung off the top of my head. I didn't really put much thought into it, so excuse me if it sounds like complete garbage.


As for the cause...
I understand what it stands for. If we're killing the Earth, by all means, let's stop what we're doing now (preferably without killing ourselves in the process)... But when you add a politician into the equation, it somehow becomes less convincing... It does to me, at least.

I generally don't trust politicians.
Of course, there are the exceptions... However, Al Gore is not one of them.


In anticipation to the possible argument that Al Gore has little to do with it... I will say that (1) Al Gore has a lot to do with it, and (2) I do what I need to do with my waste anyway; I'm no litterbug. Take the implications into consideration.

I'm probably getting a little ahead of myself ~

Sorry, this is long and by no means am I pointing at you, more so on the points you've raised. Know that, I totally understand you care. This is more of statements in sweep to the general reader (if anymore from here) So, I'll pen it all here.

You're right in the sense about not being naturally peaceful creatures. But I do not think knowledge and understanding makes it truly possible to be peaceful if there's a lack of letting go "self" as oppose to "all others". Thinking collectively rather than based on individualism. Sometimes there's a mix. Compassion is needed, but sometimes compassion also has its stupid and blind side, where sometimes to help can cause the other party to drown in their mistakes if they refuse to learn and take advantage. Hence, not helping can become helping. It boils down to the intention and the level of wisdom, possibly that's where strong understanding with goodwill comes into play.

If we are judgmental about peace, there lies a question of trust. And what formed that trust is then based on several factors that defines justifications. Enough to earn it and to give it. Sometimes, its even the end result of gain for a particular person judging from their actions. Such as Gore. In many ways I support Tuna's evaluation.

To me, even if Gore is a hypocrite and overrated, there's one thing that I'm pretty sure of, and that is, a cause like this is hopeful but it can be very heartbreaking. Most of the time, it reaps criticisms and hard battles. To have been consistent in the cause, is in its own way, commendable. Of course, there can be a twist to it - using a good cause that no one takes up the arduous task, leveraging on your stature to make it happen, good or bad, you win. That's a psychological play that many smart-asses like to play, which can make them worse than blunt jerks. But if i were to think about the end result and what it is for, I would think smart ass or not, I would support it if only much of the earning gains (not monetary) goes into saving the environment effectively, long term.

Thinking on an even more macro way, Gore is but a tool for all ye who wishes to push for the cause and nothing else. And if he gladly takes the role, even if it means it gives him selfish gains - that would be him moping in his own shallow castle. If he can live with that till the day he dies, then I would see it as he chose to be a convenient tool. And if he did embezzle his own doings, truth will surface - the damage is more than any risks, more so, unable to explain unless he turns in his grave: the price does not end when one passes away. You do pay the price eventually, and almost eternally. Your choice.

As for the cause, I do understand where you come from where politicians are concerned and I stand on the same ground. I don't normally trust politicians. They are good at what they do, precisely. But, I won't equate that to 100%. Some good grounds of politics have changed over the years from a significant few. But mostly they are about the same principles. Yet, the public goes with the system, because its a cycle. Who you choose is what you get. Simple as that. You don't choose, you null but you will be over-ruled by the majority who followed the system. Then, public should hold responsibility as much as those in the limelight. In general, we allow ourselves to get suck into it - hence, the saying of majority is always right - not really true.

However, to be fair, there are those politicians who play the game in order to achieve the right thing - just that a different intention sets them apart from all others who are politically and socially selfish. Rarely, can you find one who is an open book and strong - I'd call them rare of the rarest kind, and the kind many are willing to trample over and also others who are wise, willing with a lot of guts & courage to support them over their own lives. These, will become true legends. True legends who win hearts hands down, even their antagonists, not purely brutes - brutes are easily tyrants.

We are a complex system of beings. I would be harsh to say this but in a collective sense, if this is the way we have chosen collectively, then if we face the consequence in a collective conclusion, I can't say more than to say we deserve it. Spare just a few who did all they can.

I might even dare say, Earth or not, if we manage to find a way to cross galaxies to survive in another planet, doing the same thing as we are now - expending all reserves for our own wants and needs, this specie will do it. Eliminating absolute threats to absolute survival, as a collective specie - we won't learn until its absolute extinction at stake but to the price of all others except ourselves.

In the end, we do have to be mindful if we do not take heed, we have to bear the largest responsibility to all life here, or anywhere if ever, no one to blame but as a specie, shamefully ourselves. And if that day do come, when the specie is to be extinct, we cannot say, it isn't the right thing to happen.



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