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Spying: The Verdict

By His Lordship on 10/09/2009
I will be going with the *slight* majority from the poll.
Spying will not happen in WG.

This is my moral code: Act in a way you wish others to act toward you.

The Wilderness Guardians clan is going to embody the purity that dwindles in the clan world.
We are going to be proud to be the most honourable clan in Runescape.

There are other ways to become strong.
My attention will go toward heavier recruitment and better quality fights in the wilderness.

Sorry to those of you that wanted this badly.
I voted for it too.

But then I remembered what sort of line we carry.
Most of you are too recent in our history to recall how hard we battled to preserve honour.

We are going to be the clan whose morals are so pure, nobody will challenge our integrity.
Thank you for understanding.

By For Sooth on 10/09/2009
Dissappointed Sooth is Dissappointed

By Noobcountry on 10/09/2009
I agree with the verdict.
We are one of the most honorable clans in runescape, why lower that status?
Anyways good move Gene.

By For Sooth on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Noobcountry @ September 10, 2009 12:32 pm)
I agree with the verdict.
We are one of the most honorable clans in runescape, why lower that status?
Anyways good move Gene.

If we were good at it..... no one would know lol.


By Colinwarrior on 10/09/2009
I'm happy to see this. We fought for too many years to preserve our honor and I would've been disappointed to see it all go to shit.

By Bassism on 10/09/2009
Happy to see this, disappointed that it was so close.

By imtheganster on 10/09/2009
to bad =[

By Kiwi011 on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 06:03 pm)
Happy to see this, disappointed that it was so close.

agreed.

By Abmanju on 10/09/2009
A Decision that will save us a lot of grief.

~Abs

By ThisIsUnique on 10/09/2009
I'm happy i quess smile.gif

By Back to Own on 10/09/2009
Eh alright.

By Frozen_10 on 10/09/2009
Nice. :>

By Kwaichi on 10/09/2009
I am pround wilderness guardian.

By Havochaha on 10/09/2009
Sad just sad i thought we were taking the right step for once.. were not hacking there forums and were not DDOSing there members were simply finding out when they're in the wilderness and when they're coming for us. We don't plan on crashing we don't plan on corrupting there clan from the inside just that one simple thing. I think this is a load of crap but obviously this clan isn't ready to take a step towards pvp improvement. Spying is a part of war whether we like it or not.

By God Reports on 10/09/2009
The best choice if you ask me.

By George on 10/09/2009
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

By Havochaha on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 08:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

We care what the public think over getting results?

By Quikdrawjoe on 10/09/2009
Kudos

By Bassism on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 10, 2009 08:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 08:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

We care what the public think over getting results?

Results mean nothing if all your RSC posts get flamed the fuck out.

By Randy on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 05:59 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 10, 2009 08:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 08:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

We care what the public think over getting results?

Results mean nothing if all your RSC posts get flamed the fuck out.

That would make them hypocrites considering how most clans do it themselves. I mean, they can't flame us for spying if they have spies in other clans.

QUOTE
There are other ways to become strong.
My attention will go toward heavier recruitment and better quality fights in the wilderness.

Interesting. I thought the whole "making a new recruitment post & getting posters" was supposed to be going on, seems like it died. And better quality fights - No. I don't even get what that is supposed to mean. If we can get better quality fights then why didn't we already? I'd hate to remind you but not only do we have a weak variety of clans to fight but they're all mostly nh. Speaking of which brings me back to my previous point, they won't give a shit if we spy.

QUOTE
Act in a way you wish others to act toward you

We think that way but no one else does. We could AC a fight for DI/RoT/who ever and they'll hunt us tomorrow anyway.

By Back to Own on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 10, 2009 05:16 pm)
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 05:59 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 10, 2009 08:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 08:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

We care what the public think over getting results?

Results mean nothing if all your RSC posts get flamed the fuck out.

That would make them hypocrites considering how most clans do it themselves. I mean, they can't flame us for spying if they have spies in other clans.

QUOTE
There are other ways to become strong.
My attention will go toward heavier recruitment and better quality fights in the wilderness.

Interesting. I thought the whole "making a new recruitment post & getting posters" was supposed to be going on, seems like it died. And better quality fights - No. I don't even get what that is supposed to mean. If we can get better quality fights then why didn't we already? I'd hate to remind you but not only do we have a weak variety of clans to fight but they're all mostly nh. Speaking of which brings me back to my previous point, they won't give a shit if we spy.

QUOTE
Act in a way you wish others to act toward you

We think that way but no one else does. We could AC a fight for DI/RoT/who ever and they'll hunt us tomorrow anyway.

Truth.

And about reputation, I don't mean to be blunt, but we dont have much of one right now besides our history.

By Bassism on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Back to Own @ September 10, 2009 10:21 pm)
And about reputation, I don't mean to be blunt, but we dont have much of one right now besides our history.

Exactly, I'd much like to keep it intact.

By Sonixpber on 10/09/2009
Thank you. In all honesty I would lose some respect for our own clan if we went through with it. Then again I'm not much of a PvPer so I don't really know how much it benefits the clan.

By Randy on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 06:23 pm)
QUOTE (Back to Own @ September 10, 2009 10:21 pm)
And about reputation, I don't mean to be blunt, but we dont have much of one right now besides our history.

Exactly, I'd much like to keep it intact.

Spying isn't a conversion into being "no honor."
IF we had one, the most we could use it for is to see WHEN they have pk trips. Not wars. Clans go pking in search of other clans, we're just making the process 10x easier and keeping our members from getting bored on pk trips. We're not crashing anything, not welfaring, and not teleing so how is it nh.

By Bassism on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 10, 2009 10:30 pm)
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 06:23 pm)
QUOTE (Back to Own @ September 10, 2009 10:21 pm)
And about reputation, I don't mean to be blunt, but we dont have much of one right now besides our history.

Exactly, I'd much like to keep it intact.

Spying isn't a conversion into being "no honor."
IF we had one, the most we could use it for is to see WHEN they have pk trips. Not wars. Clans go pking in search of other clans, we're just making the process 10x easier and keeping our members from getting bored on pk trips. We're not crashing anything, not welfaring, and not teleing so how is it nh.

I never actually called it NH. I do think it's cheap and not the right way to go about things.

By Randy on 10/09/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 06:32 pm)
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 10, 2009 10:30 pm)
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 10, 2009 06:23 pm)
QUOTE (Back to Own @ September 10, 2009 10:21 pm)
And about reputation, I don't mean to be blunt, but we dont have much of one right now besides our history.

Exactly, I'd much like to keep it intact.

Spying isn't a conversion into being "no honor."
IF we had one, the most we could use it for is to see WHEN they have pk trips. Not wars. Clans go pking in search of other clans, we're just making the process 10x easier and keeping our members from getting bored on pk trips. We're not crashing anything, not welfaring, and not teleing so how is it nh.

I never actually called it NH. I do think it's cheap and not the right way to go about things.

I assumed you meant our "history" as the whole honor arpk thing.
But like Lordy said,
QUOTE
We are going to be proud to be the most honourable clan in Runescape.

Which is the reason for not spying.

By Chimpy on 11/09/2009
k. Didn't really care either way.

By txtawkin on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (His Lordship @ September 10, 2009 12:13 pm)
I will be going with the *slight* majority from the poll.
Spying will not happen in WG.

This is my moral code: Act in a way you wish others to act toward you.

The Wilderness Guardians clan is going to embody the purity that dwindles in the clan world.
We are going to be proud to be the most honourable clan in Runescape.

There are other ways to become strong.
My attention will go toward heavier recruitment and better quality fights in the wilderness.

Sorry to those of you that wanted this badly.
I voted for it too.

But then I remembered what sort of line we carry.
Most of you are too recent in our history to recall how hard we battled to preserve honour.

We are going to be the clan whose morals are so pure, nobody will challenge our integrity.
Thank you for understanding.

yes smile.gif

By Nick on 11/09/2009
I voted 7, but then again, I am content with this.

By Ansatsublade on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Abmanju @ September 10, 2009 07:59 pm)
A Decision that will save us a lot of grief.

~Abs

Very true.

By rachellove9 on 11/09/2009
My advice for future in WG . . . please don't come ask us this again. Now we have a history of considering spying. It is like a blemish on the inside that the the outside can't see.

Omar become a female and have a rot bf. Seems that be a good source of leaking to you. lol

By Ka Pineapple on 11/09/2009
If we started spying then who knows how far that nh spiral wouldve taken us. We might aswell have just changed out name to rot.

By His Lordship on 11/09/2009
This:

"We think that way but no one else does. We could AC a fight for DI/RoT/who ever and they'll hunt us tomorrow anyway. "

Is totally beside the point.

________

Really, the aim is to NOT contribute toward the degrading standards of clans. By spying, we are expanding the attitude that clans should violate the privacy of other clans.

This clan world has been hit by a virus, and that virus is a combination of immaturity, disrespect, and hatred. We will stay immune from it, and be all the better off.

Omar. You are still stuck in the little bubble of illusion that the win means everything.

___________

Furthermore Randy, better quality fights means fights in which we have rules that benefit us. That CWA thing was a total mockery because they are a CWA regular clan and we're P2P PVP. We're going to get fights that more more fun and they may not be straight wins, but they will pump up the members.

Heavy recruitment is on the way, but it is not something I will be championing. I am looking for someone (HINT) to lead a recruitment team, as outlined in my Mega-announcement.

By Chappell44 on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Kwaichi @ September 10, 2009 07:48 pm)
I am pround wilderness guardian.

nice spelling ?

By For Sooth on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 03:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

Here's a reputation for you to think about.

WG's out! Rune Farm! Let's go clear them in 30 seconds with our 30 man pull in 5 minutes because they can't mass more than 20 to a mandatory raid.

By His Lordship on 11/09/2009
Dude, if you want to get technical, your posts aren't spectacular either. Question marks don't have spaces before them, and the first letter of a sentence or phrase should be capitalised.
Don't pick on the little guy unless you're prepared to have someone even smarter than you come along and pick on you.

By Bassism on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 11, 2009 03:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 03:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

Here's a reputation for you to think about.

WG's out! Rune Farm! Let's go clear them in 30 seconds with our 30 man pull in 5 minutes because they can't mass more than 20 to a mandatory raid.

Spying does not equal bigger pulls... The issue we're discussing here is spying on other clans, and has nothing to do with how many people we can pull.

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

By For Sooth on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 11, 2009 11:52 am)
QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 11, 2009 03:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 03:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

Here's a reputation for you to think about.

WG's out! Rune Farm! Let's go clear them in 30 seconds with our 30 man pull in 5 minutes because they can't mass more than 20 to a mandatory raid.

Spying does not equal bigger pulls... The issue we're discussing here is spying on other clans, and has nothing to do with how many people we can pull.

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

If people knew that when they were joining WG that they wouldn't have a chance of getting cleared without a fight, I bet we'd have a lot more members, and with a lot more members we'd have a larger pull.
And if we know where clans are so that we can avoid them and not get cleared, getting cleared is not really an option. ANd then we get more members. And then we don't get cleared because we have a larger pull.It's full circle that starts with sneaky.

By Bassism on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 11, 2009 05:02 pm)
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 11, 2009 11:52 am)
QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 11, 2009 03:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 03:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

Here's a reputation for you to think about.

WG's out! Rune Farm! Let's go clear them in 30 seconds with our 30 man pull in 5 minutes because they can't mass more than 20 to a mandatory raid.

Spying does not equal bigger pulls... The issue we're discussing here is spying on other clans, and has nothing to do with how many people we can pull.

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

If people knew that when they were joining WG that they wouldn't have a chance of getting cleared without a fight, I bet we'd have a lot more members, and with a lot more members we'd have a larger pull.
And if we know where clans are so that we can avoid them and not get cleared, getting cleared is not really an option. ANd then we get more members. And then we don't get cleared because we have a larger pull.It's full circle that starts with sneaky.

It's called recruiting active members.

By For Sooth on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 11, 2009 12:08 pm)
QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 11, 2009 05:02 pm)
QUOTE (Bassism @ September 11, 2009 11:52 am)
QUOTE (For Sooth @ September 11, 2009 03:43 pm)
QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ September 10, 2009 03:42 pm)
Ultimately, it's for the best.
Reputation is everything.

Here's a reputation for you to think about.

WG's out! Rune Farm! Let's go clear them in 30 seconds with our 30 man pull in 5 minutes because they can't mass more than 20 to a mandatory raid.

Spying does not equal bigger pulls... The issue we're discussing here is spying on other clans, and has nothing to do with how many people we can pull.

Irrelevant troll is irrelevant.

If people knew that when they were joining WG that they wouldn't have a chance of getting cleared without a fight, I bet we'd have a lot more members, and with a lot more members we'd have a larger pull.
And if we know where clans are so that we can avoid them and not get cleared, getting cleared is not really an option. ANd then we get more members. And then we don't get cleared because we have a larger pull.It's full circle that starts with sneaky.

It's called recruiting active members.

Which is easiest when people know they aren't sacrificing 2m a week.
And since we aren't all rich, that's a big bonus if we don't have to.

By Chimpy on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Chappell44 @ September 11, 2009 10:35 am)
QUOTE (Kwaichi @ September 10, 2009 07:48 pm)
I am pround wilderness guardian.

nice spelling ?

That was needed. [/sarcasm]

By Havochaha on 11/09/2009
What would be the consequence if i was to get a spy into our enemy clan without permission of WG council?

By Randy on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 11, 2009 04:10 pm)
What would be the consequence if i was to get a spy into our enemy clan without permission of WG council?

Us laughing at you for getting kicked out because you think you're a rebel thumbsup.gif

By Havochaha on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 11, 2009 08:27 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 11, 2009 04:10 pm)
What would be the consequence if i was to get a spy into our enemy clan without permission of WG council?

Us laughing at you for getting kicked out because you think you're a rebel thumbsup.gif

Pssh bull how hard is it to get a spy into a clan that mass recruits?

By Randy on 11/09/2009
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 11, 2009 04:42 pm)
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 11, 2009 08:27 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 11, 2009 04:10 pm)
What would be the consequence if i was to get a spy into our enemy clan without permission of WG council?

Us laughing at you for getting kicked out because you think you're a rebel thumbsup.gif

Pssh bull how hard is it to get a spy into a clan that mass recruits?

I was talking about WG thumbsup.gif

By Planolocal on 11/09/2009
I have very mixed feelings about spying. I'm not sure whether this choice was good or bad. Can only hope for the best now, rite?

By Havochaha on 12/09/2009
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 11, 2009 09:49 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 11, 2009 04:42 pm)
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ September 11, 2009 08:27 pm)
QUOTE (Havochaha @ September 11, 2009 04:10 pm)
What would be the consequence if i was to get a spy into our enemy clan without permission of WG council?

Us laughing at you for getting kicked out because you think you're a rebel thumbsup.gif

Pssh bull how hard is it to get a spy into a clan that mass recruits?

I was talking about WG thumbsup.gif

Since when do i have to spy on wg? and im gunna rip your thumb off

By txtawkin on 12/09/2009
^^^hahahahahaha biggrin.gif

By Zemus3654 on 12/09/2009
Meh a little disappointed, but not gonna complain

By Tnuac on 12/09/2009
Respecting the democracy and honesty here. Great way to do it gene.



By sgtswordfish on 13/09/2009
well, we have time =D

eventually secret intelligence will become a crucial part of wg. wether its honorable or not.

By Mmangler on 13/09/2009
In a world of clans where honor has less and less meaning. We stand above and I for one believe that is a good thing.

In a separate note, Randy, what does the Hebrew above the flag say?



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