Noescape

I don't have the final decision, but I still would like to see the clan's stance.

Hes payed it all back, and done the time from wg.

I say give him another shot

No imo, he flammed beyond the point of flamming. atleast of what i;ve seen. He did join around when i did, but never stayed long. The impression he had put infront of me... Not good.

I nulled. He was a good funny active member and maybe he did change but I never really got to know him too well. During his time I was mostly inactive.

Edit: In fact I believe he did pay his debt but it's too late to change my vote lol. Give him another shot though



Brandon

I'm gonna have to null, I know his good side and his bad side. If this poll becomes a yes it's not hard to ban him again, if it's a no then at least we wont have to worry about him.

He's a really dangerous character.
What says he's not going to do it again?
I don't think he's changed one bit.
All it takes is for any member to flame him, then he'll flame back twice as bad, start a flame war, argue with the person who suspended him, drag half of WG into it, get kicked, cause drama.
All it takes is one member to flame him... that's it.

Which is why there IS harm in giving him a chance.

EDIT: This has happened before btw. Does anyone remember Job Is God?
You may or may not recall I got overruled by the council.
It was like me and Jaxx who didn't want him in. He got in and caused ****.
But it was too late to believe me by then...
There have been like 4 or 5 others... The last time Rick Hamm entered WG and caused drama, the council overruled me that time too. Great guy, but he causes drama.

I have a knack for detecting bad blood. Don't let him in.

Have we not allready learn't enough from our endless second chances for people?

This guy will be another Job.....

He was sort of a person I looked up to when I joined WG. However, later on, he offered to sell Noescape because he was quitting and wanted ot give money to his brother or something like that. I wasnt interested, but I had heard later on that he was using this to scam WG members. I felt betrayed.

Also, when we had our recruiting campaign (the big one), I remember as we neared the end of the event. We were at warriors guild, and I remember him flaming WG members.

I always say that everyone deserves another chance. Yet, I never really knew him well.

Nulled

I think he's totally harmless now - maybe simply due to time. It's been more than 8 months since he was banned.

But again, it's only a gut feeling.

I don't like him. He sounds like the exact same as Job is God. We are not desperate enough for 1 member to put our whole clan's reputation on the line.

yes i want him in, he was a great member who made a few mistakes in anger because a certain authoritative figure made a bitch move on another clan/clans and refused to listen. Noes was a prime wg figure way back, he was top 5 in activity in wg, was always in ts/irc, helped you out if you needed it and was fun to be around, if anyone ever raided with him or talked with him i bet they think the same, not to mention ts was hilarious with him in wg, kept rs interesting.

Only bad thing about him is he had a little betting problem at the arena, except he still usually came out on top...like the one time with 14m...

If you take a chance to look at someone for what they were before the hell, and now, he is a great guy.

btw ars, if your going to say something on what youve heard, dont just take it as the truth. I implore you to get to know him a little before you make your real decision.

Ok. I'm so over this.
You can find out for yourself... again.

I voted no. I actually do not think Noes is that bad of a guy, nor do I think he is that much of a trouble maker. He however is the kind of person, partially because he is very likeable and partially because of his history in WG, that can insipire divisions in the clan. We see WG as a family, but Noes will more or less come in here and create his own "crew" that members of this group might associate with more strongly than WG. If someone like Noes comes in here and eventually leaves, he is going to be taking people with him, and that is the kind of thing that can have a snowball effect and really drag WG down again.

Reading through his topic in the guest forums, I am also reminded of how much drama someone like him can bring into the clan. There is obviously still some animocities towards him, and if he wants to get into WG he is going to have to take the initiative and prove to us that he is going to accept all of WG as his family, and not just a few members who he is already friends with.

I was involved in part of why he got banned right?
(This im assuming also caused that slump of WG where both lordy and tmal posted their 14 days and made that video outlining my post >.>)


I got another chance.
Why can't he?

~Nuf said.

No /quote Gene's post on Noescapes's Guest Talk thread

I nulled, can't decide between the two.

He bad-mouthed WG.
That's all that needs to be said.
No.

~George

i dont know him so i cant vote in this

I nulled

why not..

Sorry i nulled, never spoke to him or know what he did.

Naw.

No, he flamed me after we tried to get him back

I recall his words like this : "If WG really wanted me back they would beg for it"

He has scammed before, a chance of doing it again.
And I know about people getting their chances in WG, but I do not see him having another one.

He was dedicated and he was an asset to WG.
He stood up for what he believed in and he has now payed for it.

I think he deserves another shot.

I nulled my vote as i do not know what happened and wont vote based off speculations.

I'd known him since the time he joined at first.
He was a descent guy.

Recently we have had a lot of Members coming back with Two or more chances,

So I tihnk it'd only be sensible to give him a shot. If things get out of hand, he can be banned immidietly before causing Drama.

Never talked to him, nulled my vote.

My unbias side tells me to let him have another shot... for obvious reasons.
The more human part of me thinks he doesn't deserve it.

You guys seem determined to let him back in...
Just realize, if he pulls some bullshit - part of it is your fault.

The clan has voted