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Are you loyal? *Important*
By Abmanju on 14/04/2008
Loyalty. It can be expressed in many different ways, don't get me wrong, this is only one of the many ways it can be expressed in.
Alright, Top 10 Clans, they all have something similiar. They have loyal reliable members that will come to war in 15 mins or so notice. They are also willing to lose 15+ Rune Sets for the clan.
That's the difference between Top 10 clans than the rest, they are willing to lose millions of gps for their clan.
Now, I'm not saying you will be forced to do this or anything. I just want to make a Poll to see
how many people are able to do it.
Remember, as a clan, we'll be holding money-making schemes such as GodWars before these big wars. I cam familiarise with losing many rune sets, it will hurt my economy too.
But in the end, when we're up there in the Top 10, you'll be able to sit back, say you're in WG & never be shamed about it

15 Rune Sets are about 2.1m-2.5m.
I'm quite sure Dangerous Multi-Wilderness will be back, sooner or later. I just want to see out of the 96 brilliant members we have, how many are willing to lose 15 Rune sets for the clan

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~Abs
By Pazenon on 14/04/2008
Like, who isn't.
By Dalejamesw on 14/04/2008
QUOTE (Pazenon @ April 14, 2008 05:18 pm) |
Like, who isn't. |
You had Half a rune set and 200 gp
I would
By Robertw56 on 14/04/2008
When I was in Df, I was used to losing 10-15 sets daily, this is no problem to me.
By Troll84 on 14/04/2008
Quite easily both capable and loyal enough to lose 15 rune sets lol - I've only been in the clan almost two weeks and already i feel at home enough to make sacrifices

Im fairly sure i lost alot more in my old clan's wars anyway

If jagex release a dangerous minigame... let me know
By Hathor666 on 14/04/2008
I would gladly lose 15 rune sets. I currently have 11 sets in my bank, im waitng for the old wildy to come back, not going to catch me unprepared lol.
By Pazenon on 14/04/2008
QUOTE (Dalejamesw @ April 14, 2008 05:19 pm) |
QUOTE (Pazenon @ April 14, 2008 05:18 pm) | Like, who isn't. |
You had Half a rune set and 200 gp I would |
That was on Pazenon. I'm on another account now, my main account I had created when I started playing RS. I've got enough cash on him to lose several sets in a PKRI. But yeah true, Pazenon was nearly broke down the ground.
By the way, the question wasn't about how rich you are or how many sets you have, it was about the will to lose those sets. Nerd
By Gunsnblades on 14/04/2008
I voted no as i cant even afford 5 rune sets atm but if a dangerous multi came out i prolly would be richer so by the time it came it probably yes but No atm
By Mager123789 on 14/04/2008
ANYDAY FOR WG
By Tmal34 on 14/04/2008
I love thinking about how many times this poll has come up in some form or another
By Spicy63 on 14/04/2008
If I was still actively playing runeScape then, with out a doubt my answer would be... Yes.
But seeing as I don't play RuneScape much anymore and am F2P it is increasingly harder for me to come across large sums of money. Making it impossible for me to loose that ammount of Rune Sets simply because, I dont have them.
So in terms of loyalty based on 'Economy' I would say, Hypotheticly, Yes.
But in reality, seeing that it is impossible for me, No, just because there is no other choice.
Of course Loyalty is not only based upon Economy as Abs stated, but many other aspects of WG.
By Tnuac on 14/04/2008
Its all about where WG members want WG to go.
I remember when pk run-ins became a popular element in the clan world, and lordy stuck to warring keeping it traditional. A few disagreed and wanted large run-ins, but similarly others were happy at not having to spend as much.
But, of course, WG's aims might have changed since then.
In my opinion, before heading out into the rune-encrusted path to run-in victory, organisation needs to be perfect, so that WG is filled with solid tanks and avid attackers. When that's achieved, there'll be far less losing rune, and when it is lost, it'll be for a better course. Its like an obese person wanting to run a marathon and cut down on food. Sense tells you they should get fit first.
I'd advise you become a top 10 clan before thinking like a top 10 clan. 'I think therefore I am' doesn't apply all the time, in this scenario you need to make up the ground before rising to the challenge.
By Parth23 Jani on 14/04/2008
notyl0l@3
By Yingyang06 on 14/04/2008
At the end of the day i can fish for more rune sets

But it may take a while.

but i will have to get into the hang of things because i haven't PK'd since i first started Runescape, ever since that day i haven't PK'd
By David on 14/04/2008
I'd do it, sure. I'd need the cash tho.
I figure if this did happen, we'd have more clan events for GWD and stuff so it evens out.
By Quikdrawjoe on 14/04/2008
I don't do PKRI's and I never will. WG as far as I know has never been a PKRI involving that much returning and my max is 5 anyway.
By Cameronm123 on 14/04/2008
Ive already done it
By George on 14/04/2008
If you tell me in advance (to make sure I have the sets (i'm only on 9 sets atm), then sure why not.
I don't really mind losing a 200k set when I can easily get a bandos drop to pay for it

~George
By Winddancir on 14/04/2008
If I had them, yes. But seeing as my cmb is still damned low... The only reason people would want me going on a raid is cause I'd distract them for about 10 seconds before they kill me.
By Zlatan83 on 14/04/2008
When I was in EH and a bit in WG I lost multiple sets everyday, however I regained it by mining ores which I find fun.
So Yes
By Firelion08 on 14/04/2008
I am loyal when I need to be, which is a strange way to put it.
When it comes to sacrificing +15 sets of rune for WG, yeah, I would do it -- If I had the choice to.
Of course, I can't say much today as I don't play anymore.
By Back to Own on 14/04/2008
I'm Emeritus, but I would do that any day.
Back in old wildy, I could admit that I lost most of my money through returning. It got the a point where I have nothing but basic nessesities. Whenever I wasnt on raids, I was either pking or making money for more. But the money never really mattered.
Biggest lost of rune sets I had in a fight I think was when we fought SE. I lost about 8 or 9 sets if I remember.
Now, because of the lack of wildy, I'm much more richer then I was before. I'd be glad to make the sacrifice again.
By Aardvark39 on 14/04/2008
I am capable and willing as well, I am still new to all this and Love WG
By DZ on 14/04/2008
No way I hate anything to do with fighting another clan!
I really doubt we would ever have a fight that would last that long anyway. I don't like and I'm sure lots of you don't like fighting for 5+ hours.
By Kiwi011 on 14/04/2008
well, i voted for emeritus slot, but tbh, I couldnt do that, never even owned that much sets L
By Pyro Blade26 on 14/04/2008
yea lol i've pkd like 30 sets with wg only died like 3 times on f2p trips. so basically i'd make 150 sets for dying for 15? gf XD
By T Dwag on 14/04/2008
I don't have 15 rune sets but I'd work my way up for 15 rune sets to lose for WG.

Gps are a small amount to lose for lasting friendships and good memories.
Brandon
By Sir Wolfoo on 15/04/2008
I would lose 100 rune sets for WG !
By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 15/04/2008
I'll use every gp I have for you, WG. They may pile me over and over, but I will continue.
By 1l devour 1l on 15/04/2008
I dont have 15 rune sets but i would definatly use up what i had for WG then i would go and make some more money, ready for the next time and do it again:D
By Mickey on 15/04/2008
I would lose 15 rune sets for WG, if not more. Moving up through ranks and better rep for WG is worth alot more =]
By Bambaleo on 15/04/2008
it's not the matter of loyality but the how much money you got sitting in your bank...
By Kwaichi on 15/04/2008
I have now only 10 setes, but if it would ne needed, it isnt problem for me to get some more.
No i have 11 setes, if it is an important fight i will fight even in my saradomin
...problem for me cash, its sometime time of events...
By General199 on 15/04/2008
When having run ins and when you put your clan into that big run in for several hours you have to remember the clan and give them that time for them to recoop and gain back the sets. Right now I only have 2 sets in my bank as more then that is not needed. But if a Dangerous Multi does emerge and Wg uses this fighting arena I will do what it takes to have as many sets needed to get a win. I am sure Robert knows the extent some people will go for a win. Cough Rsd Cough.
But in reality I think if we are to be succesful we need to live by our codes and not what other people expect of us. In the beginning it will probably be best to stick to time caps or however it is going to work.
By Karel Dude on 15/04/2008
Rune sets and money isn't much of a problem when you have enough to spend. I'd like to think that any decent member would spend the money for their clan if they had enough.
By Mochacho456 on 15/04/2008
This is stupid. You can't judge loyalty by which someone if willing to lose. Theres a point between loyalty and being plain retarded.
By Karlfischer on 15/04/2008
No, I would not be willing to lose 15 rune sets, because I do not have that many to lose in the first place. Nor do I have the time to get 15 rune sets.
As some have said before, how many rune sets is not a measure of loyalty. It is rather a measure of how much you are willing to sacrifice in order to gain ranks. Often people who value rank so highly will show their loyalty by quitting WG when we start losing ranks.
No matter what rank we are, I have always been proud to be WG.
By Valdremia on 15/04/2008
QUOTE (Karlfischer @ April 15, 2008 03:32 pm) |
No, I would not be willing to lose 15 rune sets, because I do not have that many to lose in the first place. Nor do I have the time to get 15 rune sets.
As some have said before, how many rune sets is not a measure of loyalty. It is rather a measure of how much you are willing to sacrifice in order to gain ranks. Often people who value rank so highly will show their loyalty by quitting WG when we start losing ranks.
No matter what rank we are, I have always been proud to be WG. |
Agree and disagree.
Losing the number of rune sets is definitely not a sure measure of loyalty, more so a measure of one's capacity. However, if it is a surer measure in willingness to sacrifice in order to gain ranks - it depends on the clan's directives to want to go that length and why - and even if the person do not value ranks personally, you do what you can. But you should not be penalized for doing your best, not by rune sets, but by efforts - there's no telling, bar none.
Hence, its not in fairness to gauge those who does so, losing 15 rune sets, indefinitely valuing ranks beyond all else.
Knowing who values ranks more, provided it is in all fairness of conditions that gives no other reasons, yes, quitting WG - a show of loyalty to ranks above all else.
P.S. I never had 15 rune sets to lose.
By Karlfischer on 15/04/2008
QUOTE (Valdremia @ April 15, 2008 03:53 pm) |
QUOTE (Karlfischer @ April 15, 2008 03:32 pm) | No, I would not be willing to lose 15 rune sets, because I do not have that many to lose in the first place. Nor do I have the time to get 15 rune sets.
As some have said before, how many rune sets is not a measure of loyalty. It is rather a measure of how much you are willing to sacrifice in order to gain ranks. Often people who value rank so highly will show their loyalty by quitting WG when we start losing ranks.
No matter what rank we are, I have always been proud to be WG. |
Agree and disagree.
Losing the number of rune sets is definitely not a sure measure of loyalty, more so a measure of one's capacity. However, if it is a surer measure in willingness to sacrifice in order to gain ranks - it depends on the clan's directives to want to go that length and why - and even if the person do not value ranks personally, you do what you can. But you should not be penalized for doing your best, not by rune sets, but by efforts - there's no telling, bar none.
Hence, its not in fairness to gauge those who does so, losing 15 rune sets, indefinitely valuing ranks beyond all else.
Knowing who values ranks more, provided it is in all fairness of conditions that gives no other reasons, yes, quitting WG - a show of loyalty to ranks above all else.
P.S. I never had 15 rune sets to lose.
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Well, yes, you are right that how many rune sets a person is willing to lose is not actually that reflective of how much a person values ranks. It is still more indicative of how much money a person has to spare.
The point I am trying to get across is that most of those members in the top 10 clans are there primarily because they like having a top 10 rank, and not because they are loyal to the clan. If one of these top 10 clans suddenly started losing wars and dropping ranks, many of what Abs refers to as their "loyal" members would start going to other top 10 clans. And yes, I have seen the same thing with WG, where people are willing to sacrifice pixels when we are gaining ranks, but yet will quit when we start losing ranks.
By Valdremia on 15/04/2008
QUOTE (Karlfischer @ April 15, 2008 04:43 pm) |
QUOTE (Valdremia @ April 15, 2008 03:53 pm) | QUOTE (Karlfischer @ April 15, 2008 03:32 pm) | No, I would not be willing to lose 15 rune sets, because I do not have that many to lose in the first place. Nor do I have the time to get 15 rune sets.
As some have said before, how many rune sets is not a measure of loyalty. It is rather a measure of how much you are willing to sacrifice in order to gain ranks. Often people who value rank so highly will show their loyalty by quitting WG when we start losing ranks.
No matter what rank we are, I have always been proud to be WG. |
Agree and disagree.
Losing the number of rune sets is definitely not a sure measure of loyalty, more so a measure of one's capacity. However, if it is a surer measure in willingness to sacrifice in order to gain ranks - it depends on the clan's directives to want to go that length and why - and even if the person do not value ranks personally, you do what you can. But you should not be penalized for doing your best, not by rune sets, but by efforts - there's no telling, bar none.
Hence, its not in fairness to gauge those who does so, losing 15 rune sets, indefinitely valuing ranks beyond all else.
Knowing who values ranks more, provided it is in all fairness of conditions that gives no other reasons, yes, quitting WG - a show of loyalty to ranks above all else.
P.S. I never had 15 rune sets to lose.
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Well, yes, you are right that how many rune sets a person is willing to lose is not actually that reflective of how much a person values ranks. It is still more indicative of how much money a person has to spare.
The point I am trying to get across is that most of those members in the top 10 clans are there primarily because they like having a top 10 rank, and not because they are loyal to the clan. If one of these top 10 clans suddenly started losing wars and dropping ranks, many of what Abs refers to as their "loyal" members would start going to other top 10 clans. And yes, I have seen the same thing with WG, where people are willing to sacrifice pixels when we are gaining ranks, but yet will quit when we start losing ranks.
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Edited: Nvm. Written a whole bunch too much earlier. I'm just saying if you're a powerhouse and that's what your priority is, such as the top 10s, its natural to get members who are "loyal" to serve that clan's purpose. And when people starts quitting when we lose ranks, to the least we know who stayed for the kind of loyalty we are looking for. Which, if we are not looking at gaining ranks as loyalty, then better not let number of rune sets to lose be something too much of a concern. Cheers.
By Boogers102 on 15/04/2008
I did it before, I'll do it again.
I would come back to RS more often if the wildy came back.
Saturday Morning Drag Lures anyone?
By pur3laugh on 15/04/2008
I'll lose more than that for Wg. Anyday!
By Indivi2you on 15/04/2008
Yes Definitely.
I would eventually train cmb too, i have to get those lvls to keep up my total lol.
By Colinwarrior on 15/04/2008
QUOTE (Quikdrawjoe @ April 14, 2008 06:36 pm) |
I don't do PKRI's and I never will. WG as far as I know has never been a PKRI involving that much returning and my max is 5 anyway. |
What this dude said^^
I think the most I've lost in one fight for WG is 2-3 sets..I'm not a returner, I never will be.
I don't have time to sit on the comp for hours just making money for rune sets. I also don't have time to sit there and fight in a PKRI for hours on end. I'm a warring type of dude. Always have been, always will be.
Btw: loyalty has nothing to do with how many rune sets you are willing to lose. End of story.
BTW#2: MOCH YOU ARE AWESOME AND YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST SONGS IN YOUR SIG
By Elyxiatic on 15/04/2008
If multi actually came back, then I'd be training combat.
Higher cmb seems to lose less rune sets.
Of course, I have never been on a wg pkri + the one that was scheduled before the "updates" was ruined due to those updates.
I think I'd actually like a pkri more than the mini-wars that we have now.
By Kiwi011 on 15/04/2008
ok here is my take.
Im poor and have never had money, but whenever a mini or situation arrived I almost always went and tried to sell some stuff so i could afford rune for the event. I mini'ied a lot so I didn't ever return, I couldn't afford to return, thank god it was a mini, but if I had an extra dlong/dds or peice of p2p armor I would try to sell them so i could buy a set off of another member.
I think the real question would be, if you had a whip in your bank and had a miniwar if you would sell the whip and use the money to buy a few sets of rune, lets say 3 because then you have enough left so you can get the whip back soon after.
By Dorcha3377 on 16/04/2008
Are you kidding me ? They bring back the "dangerous" wildy, I will spend every gp of my 88 mil on rune sets. I am so there.
By Mangomaniac2 on 16/04/2008
Jenny double posted
I'm emeritus. But if dangerous wildy came back, I'd make the money to be able to loose 15 rune sets.
By Pseudomage0 on 16/04/2008
yes i definately would
By Samurai-JM on 16/04/2008
I'm emertius, but heck yea. Fun and Friendship > Pixels. Always.
3+ years of this place has taught me that if nothing else
By Me9alomaniac on 16/04/2008
Probably lost a ton of rune sets in the past and I dont care about money in games
By Zeth007 on 17/04/2008
I would do what ever it would take. - until I ran out of cash.
~Zeth
By Split 69 on 18/04/2008
I'm down man.
By Kero2 on 18/04/2008
yawn lol wen i saw this i was like nope im not loyal. I have my reasons which ill explain wen its time.
But yah im down for that. Anyways just go to GWs or FoG and sell what you get there for sets. Its really easy to get rune.
Lol if i died for EoS i dont see why i wouldnt die for my family
By Zhero06 on 22/04/2008
I have never lost sets before . . . more like done nothing but gain. It's a pain but yeah, I would keep returning, haha.
By Useph1 on 29/04/2008
Personally I said no. I would probably get really mad after about 3-4 sets and be done. Maybe if I had 200-300 million coins I'd lose even 50 sets, but I don't, I have closer to 15 million, so I have to go with no.
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