Discussion on Botting

Recently, I am hearing that we may have some people botting in RS from WG. I want to allow for an open discussion.

This pretty much sums up my view on it: (scroll to bottom post)

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...=0&#entry238636

You have the right to disagree with me, but this is how the rules are interpreted by me.

I think my stance on this is pretty predictable.... No no no no and no.

I was disappointed to hear about a few people who have been doing this lately, I thought you were better than that.

Though I have to say, where do we draw the line? Botting isn't allowed but Account sharing is fine? Because I think in WG atm there is less people who *don't* account share than people who do share.....

Anything against Jagex rules should be against ours. It's as easy as that.

why emeritus?

we're a clan that plays the game for fun so the need for account sharing and botting isn't there.(not like we need the real world money anyhow) jagex dosen't show leniency for players who abuse their accounts for the sole reason of gaining an "unfair advantage".

Come onnnn, play it fair or don't play it

No on botting.

I didn't even realise how much bots have advanced since i last read up about them years ago, so much has changed. To be honest it doesn't worry me too much, as long as people know what they're getting themselves into and they don't put anyone around them at risk whilst doing this, for example, account sharing with a friend, and getting their friends account banned since it was used by the botters IP.

It all depends on how people like having their own sense of achievement i guess, just don't come whinging and expecting pity from getting banned from it if that happens.

There is no need for botting.
I think the people who have been botting should remain anonymous for those who don't already know, and should stop it.

At that point, if they continue to bot, I hope they get banned and get out of WG. Botting has always been something that I have been against because when they are done, they have achieved nothing. It is cheating to the max extent, RuneScape-wise at least.

Account sharing, in my opinion depends on the persons and the reason.

To share accounts to train is almost like botting.
To share accounts to get a piece of special armour (torso, firecape, void, etc.) is okay, in my personal opinion. It is the person's choice if they want to get the items themselves, and the items are not permanent.

I personally have let people get on any of my "other" accounts, because they are not important to me. I don't see why someone would let a person on their main account after many of us have spent 100+ days (150 personally) leveling and building the account.

I don't know who is, and I hope I never do. They'd better hope so too.

If they can't follow the rules and play the game how it is meant to be played get rid of them TBH.

Following Jagex rules has always been a part of WG rules... so yeah.

Never have never will.

No on bots though I remain interested in how someone can set up a character so it repeats the same actions over and over--just a mental exercise.

Didn't read your stuff but a long time ago botting and crap was really anti-the-way-wg-does-things.

But from what i heard on mumble like 2 months ago makes me believe that almost like 80% of wg bots

In principle if burning jews is bad, but everyone in the world burns jews and accepts the burning of jews is good then you should stop people burning jews.

In WG if botting is bad but everyone in WG bots and accepts that botting is good, you try to tell them its bad but then like 934493 people team up on you and smack you down over TS.



Why arent people getting banned over this stuff

I mean christ i get a warn level every time i say 'poo' or something.
Its almost becoming like real life, where the granny who forgets to pay her tax gets arrested whilst the mass murderers are chillin killing some 12yr old girls.

i'm suprised @ the fact that they get emeritus or another 100+

I would hope they mean that you *can't* be emeritus if your account is banned for botting

Never have botted ever on my account. That isn't to say I haven't broken a few rules, but they were never to my accounts advantage lol.

botting is obvious enough, but to people who are saying we shouldnt allow account sharing, but why is account sharing against the rules?

it is only against the rules because if the person you are sharing it with changes the password and steals it, jagex cant be the ones to blame.

so dont share accounts with people you cant trust. if you dont want to share, then dont share, but account sharing has been in not only the clan world but in runescape in general for quite awhile.

i have let people on my account and have been on people's account, mostly just for warring or pking for many reasons, but is there really anything wrong with that?

If it was in exchange for 'training for money', then there is something wrong with it.

I am offended that you think the British Empire was shit.

We have a new rule:

After talking to all of council, we have decided that, as of today, all botters will be punished by being reported to Jagex.

There was a point in time where I was going to make my own botting program but then I ran out of time and interest. So that idea was tossed onto the pile of ambitious but rubbish. If I remember, my intention was to see how long it would take jagex to catch on to my botting....or if they were smart enough to catch on to my botting...

Yeah not sure how I missed this post and we didn't talk about it. At least not this Council member. I definitely can't see Gene supporting that rule or Jusin :\ Rachel?

Ahh communication between council, such a wonderful dream

Staff forums are clearly so heavily used for communication between council that you guys must have missed the topic

In all honesty, pretty disappointing that the decision wasn't fully discussed between everyone, however its just as disappointing that it gets discussed on a lvl 1 thread rather than in private between council or all staff.

I like how no one stood up against the decision until Robbie made a post.

Yeah I blame Vephyrus.

There's a difference between fucking up, and intentionally taking advantage of game mechanics for your own selfish benefit. If it's the first, sure, I'll have your back. If it's the second and you expect me to bend over give you a brotherly pat on the back and say everything's fine, well fuck you. If you bot I am fully in favor of reporting you and having every character you have shredded out of Jagex's records. Permanently. Expecting your clanmates to have your back in something like this is a far more horrendous breach of trust.

I say NO to botting... play yourself or don't play at all.

And sorry to say this, but the fact we "share accounts" sickens me as well. if a person can't make it to a war he shouldn't show up at all. Even if someone else is controlling him/her.

If you get banned for this I think its only natural you loose all rights as a WG member.

My 2 cents, don't cheat and earn your character(s), like million others do...

Greets,

Jesse

yep. i botted my way to millions =P
^
JK

um.......i couldn't care less about botting mainly because runescape is a grinding game and it would be worse for a person to waste their life on such a game.

rs is a waste of time

the closest i can say i've been to botting is fishing. when you fish you can leave your account there and all you need to do is click and make sure it's doing all the work. they say afking isn't allowed but then again i'm a multi-tasker

Actually it was Gene's idea. Surprised? Sorry Vephy I thought you were in agreement.

I'll rephrase it for you. Gene told me the new rule is that and I said okay I'll post it.
Does that clear it up for everyone?

I'm just hoping that this is a strong enough deterrent to keep it from happening.

Hmm... well China's gonna replace the USA as the world power soon, and then after a while the two are just gonna combine to form the United States of China. If the UK gets in on that, they'd be sorted. So maybe we merge with RoT and VR?

Headlines read "Dewey Wins" USA

botting is a no no, risk of losing the account and the clan status just doesnt seem right so why risk it all?