Teamspeak admin

I believe that staff should be given server admin mine got taken away to my surprise today.

Main reasons
-Need to be able to kick people from the server especially in war situations.
-One of the most teamspeak active people in the clan
-Cannot set priority speakers for wars/raids
-Cannot move people out of channels or into other channels.
-Cannot enter or delete stupid channels being made,

Take this into account next time atleast discuss it with the rest of staff first.
Thankyou

I logged on today and also found mine taken away.
I do feel that whoever did take it away, without my knowledge, should not have been so spineless.
ALL staff had SA on TS2, so why not on TS3.

Either way, taking it away from Jordan and I without our knowledge was a horrible thing to do. Who was it? Fess up.

Jordan you have been abusing the crap out of it for a start and generally during a war council members will be there, you guys are to be given ca in the lobby from what i have read.

I haven't abused the crap out of it.
(Apart from kicking you once Justin before you got council - but that doesn't count)

I never said you abused the crap out of it George, but the decision was made in level 4 from what i understand.

Lol I took it from Jordan this morning in TS while he was there. Then he told me that he needed it for a list of good reasons. So I told him to make this topic.

During the raid I'm giving it back to him if we don't meet an agreement that he should have it.

I'm not sure who took it away from you George but lets not get emotional over petty power struggles.

In any case its been decided in lvl 4 at the moment, though I'm leaning on giving it to raid leaders too. And I will during the raid, but will be taken afterwards. Yes I plan to attend all the raids and if not I'll be sure to give it back earlier to ensure everything goes all right.

Another communication breakdown. We should have at least notified them.
I'm sorry guys, but I wasn't expecting it so soon.

The problem with channel admin is it has to be given in all channels. Only given CA in the lobby? That doesn't really do much good. Also, if somebody creates their own channel, they get channel admin for their channel but staff doesn't. It's much less complication and difficulty to just give to all staff IMO. If the only reason you're not is because Jordan supposedly "abused it" then, for lack of a better term, that's gay.

Mmmm.
I'm struggling to find the purpose of the tertiary existence in this clan.
Clearly, all decisions are made without us.
I'm not saying that some decisions shouldn't be made without us, as they should. The Council are the main leaders, but for instance the raid leader thing. Why even bother to post it if you had already decided (Justin).... don't pretend that we're involved in anything.

I cannot speak for myself, but surely the fact that Jordan and Kev contribute so much to WG means that they deserve SA. If they abuse it, then ok then perhaps take it away.
But warn them that it will happen first...

Finally. SA on TS is a moderating position. Jordan, Kev and I all have a moderating position on IRC, so why not in TS?

We don't think you *need* SA, that's all.
Once you're registered on TS, you can be automatically made CA in whatever channels are appropriate.

If you have a really strong argument for needing SA, like discipline because council are never on (which I don't believe, as council are in there most of the time), then say so now.

I support Justin, Veph and Rachel in their desire to strip SA and keep it purely amongst council members, but I value your input. Give me the reasons plainly and I'll weight it up fairly, I promise.

It would be nice to see council's reasoning to keep it only amongst themselves. "We don't think you need it" is about as vague as you can get.

Also, there are, in fact, times when I am the only moderator in IRC, and likewise, there are times when I am the only staff member in TeamSpeak. I wouldn't call them rare occurrences, either. As I type this, I am the only staff member in TeamSpeak.

And if you're going to give it to raid leaders, as Vephyrus said is possible, and which only makes sense based on their need for it, it would make no sense to give to raid leaders and not to event leaders.

I will let the council member who proposed it to explain their actions.

No actually it was me that brought it to lvl 4 for discussion. I've heard a few complaints about members being kicked by Jordan. And to be very honest you don't need it.

We can give tertiaries CA, in your own respective channels like for Events and PVP. I believe SA should be restricted to Council.

You can still moderate then during your events and in the lobby. But really I don't feel you should have CA which could allow you to come to any channel you want even our council channel. You have the ability to verbally warn or give a forum warn for unacceptable behavior.

You don't get the same level on the forum or IRC so why would you think you should have it in our audio? I still haven't seen any reason to give you this added level of power in TS. Please explain further to me the need for it.

Although, I didn't take it away, I am in full support of it being removed. Sorry you didn't receive a forum pm letting you know the decision.

Gene if you say is possible 'when getting registered' ill be more than happy with that as long as i can do my job when i am raiding/warring ill be 100% supporting.

I dont know were this power abusing stuff is coming from but moving people out of the channel when there being idiots isnt abusing. Anyone that got moved/kicked would of deserved it. Or did something in knowledge of the result.

I also feel there is a lack of communication to staff of late.

Council is there to overview and run the clan.
Staff is there to run the specific roles of events and raids while being able to resolve any problems when running those events. Also being a link to the people.

A brief but self explanatory run down of the roles.

We have a good council but restricting our roles will only make it harder for you. Im not here to work against you and noone in staff should . We are here to help but if constriction from our duties is prohibited then we cant. If we could find a medial resolution for this teamspeak thing it would be great. If a fine set of rules are written up for SA on TS for staff members and if abused punishment met it would still much better than this.

While some things in council should be decided truly upon themselves, if things need to be quickly resolved council should take action and it is their obligation to. Most should still come down to the rest of the clan.

As you all know what happens when one person decides to take charge without any coherence with the rest of the clan.

Also... could this be explained?



I won't even bother posting a rant on the problem with this.

exempt

I didn't know Jayson had SA.
Jordan got get your undies in a knot.
It's OBVIOUSLY going to get stripped.

Lol that was me pretending to be Jayson x D