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We Are Not A Community Clan

By His_Lordship on 05/10/2010
There are a few ambiguities that need to be cleared.


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Community vs PVP

I wish to make it all official in the form of an announcement.
The Wilderness Guardians is a warring (PVP) clan.
We have been a PVP clan since we were founded.
We have never been a community clan.

This means a few things:

1. You must attend all wars unless sleeping or occupied in real life
2. Official raids are mandatory to attend if you are online. Spontaneous raids remain voluntary.
3. You must sign up for all long-prep (5+ days notice) fights as a yes or a no.

However, as we advertise, you may play when you like, how you like apart from the above considerations.

On a related note, let's not turn our PVP into a joke. It's the driving force behind WG. PVP events should be the major consideration when you visit these forums. Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights, automatically get into the habit of wanting to sign up for whatever possible. Know your raid times and keep that part of your week free to attend. We have two set times. Surely most people can make one. If you can't, speak to the leadership and we'll see if we can make the times better.

If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


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Multiclanning

There has been a change of rules, however most rules remain the same.

1. Skilling clans are fine. Community-only clans are fine
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.
3. Minor WG events may be skipped for another clan's events. Major WG events always get first priority. (Official raids, wars, PKRIs, major community events such as in the anniversary)




_____________________


Emeritus

The Emeritus rules are not written down and only really known through general knowledge. I think it should stay that way, simply because by the time you get to a position worthy of emeritus, you should know the system well enough anyway. I write them down here, so store them in your mind.

1. Emeritus is not guaranteed to anyone except council ranks, but is *usually* given to tertiaries assuming they've served properly.
2. Some elite members are also eligible, but it is not certain at all.
3. The main criteria is outstanding service to WG. previously it was allowed to Higher Guardian+, and then more recently Elite Guardian+. No longer. We've made it harder to get emeritus, so that only the most memorable members can achieve it once they retire. That comes down to the council's discretion
4. On the plus side, there is absolutely no activity requirement (even a forum activity requirement) for the rank any more. You earned it for good.
5. If you're Runescape-active, you have to have an active rank. Emeritus is not suitable.




_________________________


Forum Activity Requirements

If you cannot visit the forums at least twice a week, you'll need an inactivity topic. Extended time periods will be granted based on your standing with the clan. Sign-ups for fights will now be taken as activity checks. If you don't have an inactivity topic and you are not signed up, you will be removed after several consecutive strikes.




_________________________


These new rules (apart from the Emeritus rules) can be found in the updated rules topic, here:

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=13492

I will answer any related questions you guys have.
Just post below with your questions and comments.

By Randy on 05/10/2010
It confuses me how the Gladz war is at a somewhat similar time as the allied raid yet we only pull around 10 (wg) to that... and then suddenly 45 to the war? If people would start having the same motivation to go to raids WG would be unstoppable. Thank you for the post Lordy it should really clarify things.

By Woof on 05/10/2010
I agree to everything on this list. I appreciate your commitment to the clan and where you're trying to take it. I'm having troubles finding the updates in the rules, but maybe that's just because I'm being stupid. tongue.gif

I also agree about the thing about the war and the raids, but for someone like in my case, I've only -just- got Saturday's off starting this week, so I'm kind of lucky on that thing.

Anyways, good topic, hope all goes well.

By Zooby69 on 05/10/2010
QUOTE
If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


Does this mean we are getting more wars p/week because at this moment we have one every two weeks-ish.

edit: just saw the 20 hour prep war, w00t

QUOTE
Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights


This is what we need. Everyone needs to get pumped for wars#.

Great stuff to finally lay down the law and tell people we aren't a community clan Eugene. king.gif

By His_Lordship on 05/10/2010
QUOTE: Zooby69 @ October 05, 2010 11:04 pm)
QUOTE
If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


Does this mean we are getting more wars p/week because at this moment we have one every two weeks-ish.

edit: just saw the 20 hour prep war, w00t

QUOTE
Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights


This is what we need. Everyone needs to get pumped for wars#.

Great stuff to finally lay down the law and tell people we aren't a community clan Eugene. king.gif

I'd like to keep our major fights to every few weeks Josh. Personally I think several a week is overloading WG. We'll get fed up with fighting.

By DZ on 05/10/2010
I've been waiting for a topic like this for years now. Good to finally see it.

W00t I qualify for Emeritus hash.png

By Dorcha3377 on 05/10/2010
I love this !

By VEPHYSAURAS on 05/10/2010
Bit bothered that Emeritus don't have to attend wars if they are a little active. Meh.

Besides that I am very happy about this as I had to continuously debate and argue these rules with some members. I asked for clarification and you gave this topic so I'm grateful.

By Lee on 05/10/2010
Finally...biggrin.gif

By Sativas on 05/10/2010
Clarification was long overdue. I'm glad this topic is up now.

By Quikdrawjoe on 06/10/2010
QUOTE: Randy @ October 05, 2010 09:53 pm)
It confuses me how the Gladz war is at a somewhat similar time as the allied raid yet we only pull around 10 (wg) to that... and then suddenly 45 to the war? If people would start having the same motivation to go to raids WG would be unstoppable. Thank you for the post Lordy it should really clarify things.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. hash.png



Does this mean emeritus are excluded from sign ups as per the no forum activity requirement?

By VEPHYSAURAS on 06/10/2010
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ October 05, 2010 07:10 pm)
QUOTE: Randy October 05, 2010 09:53 pm
It confuses me how the Gladz war is at a somewhat similar time as the allied raid yet we only pull around 10 (wg) to that... and then suddenly 45 to the war? If people would start having the same motivation to go to raids WG would be unstoppable. Thank you for the post Lordy it should really clarify things.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. hash.png



Does this mean emeritus are excluded from sign ups as per the no forum activity requirement?

They always were, but we ask them to our most important wars. Hope we still do at least.

By Mmangler on 06/10/2010
Thanks for the clarification.

By Nick on 06/10/2010
What do you qualify as RuneScape active?

I appreciate this topic. It has been long overdue.

By Indivi2you on 06/10/2010
Ohh so I guess I'm the elite of the most honorable members of the clan since I'm emeritus, yeah?

./ego

By Noobcountry on 07/10/2010
Amen.

By Tweek900 on 07/10/2010
QUOTE: His_Lordship October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

By JC on 07/10/2010
QUOTE: Tweek900 @ October 07, 2010 03:32 pm)
QUOTE: His_Lordship October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

AF definitely isn't allowed, and isn't Brut NH so they wouldn't be allowed even if they're on RC or not.

By rachellove9 on 07/10/2010
We did have an exception with Leecable because they were in AF before it came in place. Lee is in AF retired list and it was a huge issue for us in his acceptance. So don't try to use Lee as a way to get in AF.

But our rules are clear here. AF is not allowed.

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...ndpost&p=233586

By His_Lordship on 07/10/2010
QUOTE: Tweek900 @ October 07, 2010 02:32 am)
QUOTE: His_Lordship October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

By 13lack boxxy on 08/10/2010
i would love to go to more raids wars and so on, it just seems to rarely coinside with my RL schedule, recently ive been pritty busy and video games havent been prioity on my list as a result.

however i do try to sign up to all i can and take part in all i can too.

in honesty it doesent help my mates in the clan (sativas topwobler and supremopete) havent been all that active either recently when they return to regular play im sure my attendance will improve, and i feel a bit out of my depth arround some more of the hardcore pkers or war vets.

tonights tank practice was good, i enjoyed it alot and hope to attend more.

anyways theres my, i guess it kinda sounds like and excuses for my relative inactivity recently.

By Kiwi011 on 08/10/2010
QUOTE: Indivi2you @ October 06, 2010 10:50 pm)
Ohh so I guess I'm the elite of the most honorable members of the clan since I'm emeritus, yeah?

./ego

HAHAHAHA

By Quikdrawjoe on 08/10/2010
QUOTE: His_Lordship @ October 07, 2010 03:33 am)
QUOTE: Tweek900 October 07, 2010 02:32 am
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.

By Tweek900 on 08/10/2010
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ October 08, 2010 01:49 pm)
QUOTE: His_Lordship October 07, 2010 03:33 am
       
QUOTE: Tweek900  October 07, 2010 02:32 am
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.

yes and neither would i.... so i should be aloud in af?

By Quikdrawjoe on 09/10/2010
QUOTE: Tweek900 @ October 08, 2010 08:39 pm)
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe October 08, 2010 01:49 pm
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 07, 2010 03:33 am
       
QUOTE: Tweek900  October 07, 2010 02:32 am
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.

yes and neither would i.... so i should be aloud in af?

No, Lee is a long standing and respected member of WG who I have the utmost respect and trust in. eviltardsmile.gif

By 7th Light on 09/10/2010
I would love to expend my activity up the clan is in a diffrent time zone to me. I appect that and try to make what i can and do what i can for the clan. Straight to the point topic but.

By Squelchyfish on 10/10/2010
QUOTE: His_Lordship @ October 05, 2010 09:36 pm)
There are a few ambiguities that need to be cleared.


______________________


Community vs PVP

I wish to make it all official in the form of an announcement.
The Wilderness Guardians is a warring (PVP) clan.
We have been a PVP clan since we were founded.
We have never been a community clan.

This means a few things:

1. You must attend all wars unless sleeping or occupied in real life
2. Official raids are mandatory to attend if you are online. Spontaneous raids remain voluntary.
3. You must sign up for all long-prep (5+ days notice) fights as a yes or a no.

However, as we advertise, you may play when you like, how you like apart from the above considerations.

On a related note, let's not turn our PVP into a joke. It's the driving force behind WG. PVP events should be the major consideration when you visit these forums. Get yourselves riled up for upcoming fights, automatically get into the habit of wanting to sign up for whatever possible. Know your raid times and keep that part of your week free to attend. We have two set times. Surely most people can make one. If you can't, speak to the leadership and we'll see if we can make the times better.

If you are *not* attending at least 2 out of 3 major fights and a weekly raid, you can afford to lift your game.


_____________________


Multiclanning

There has been a change of rules, however most rules remain the same.

1. Skilling clans are fine. Community-only clans are fine
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.
3. Minor WG events may be skipped for another clan's events. Major WG events always get first priority. (Official raids, wars, PKRIs, major community events such as in the anniversary)




_____________________


Emeritus

The Emeritus rules are not written down and only really known through general knowledge. I think it should stay that way, simply because by the time you get to a position worthy of emeritus, you should know the system well enough anyway. I write them down here, so store them in your mind.

1. Emeritus is not guaranteed to anyone except council ranks, but is *usually* given to tertiaries assuming they've served properly.
2. Some elite members are also eligible, but it is not certain at all.
3. The main criteria is outstanding service to WG. previously it was allowed to Higher Guardian+, and then more recently Elite Guardian+. No longer. We've made it harder to get emeritus, so that only the most memorable members can achieve it once they retire. That comes down to the council's discretion
4. On the plus side, there is absolutely no activity requirement (even a forum activity requirement) for the rank any more. You earned it for good.
5. If you're Runescape-active, you have to have an active rank. Emeritus is not suitable.




_________________________


Forum Activity Requirements

If you cannot visit the forums at least twice a week, you'll need an inactivity topic. Extended time periods will be granted based on your standing with the clan. Sign-ups for fights will now be taken as activity checks. If you don't have an inactivity topic and you are not signed up, you will be removed after several consecutive strikes.




_________________________


These new rules (apart from the Emeritus rules) can be found in the updated rules topic, here:

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...showtopic=13492

I will answer any related questions you guys have.
Just post below with your questions and comments.

Derpdy derp derp

Whats that I hear?

Oh its the war, skills and COMMUNITY sectors we used to have.

By Kaneko86 on 16/10/2010
Here's the thing...I can't make the weekly raids at all because Saturday is the day that I spend time with my boyfriend. So I'm not on at all during that period. Otherwise, I would be able to come.

By Lee on 18/10/2010
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ October 08, 2010 07:36 pm)
QUOTE: Tweek900 October 08, 2010 08:39 pm
       
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe  October 08, 2010 01:49 pm
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 07, 2010 03:33 am
       
QUOTE: Tweek900  October 07, 2010 02:32 am
       
QUOTE: His_Lordship  October 05, 2010 04:36 pm
2. PVP Teams are fine on two conditions: they don't have mandatory events and they are not ranked on Tip.it or RSC - that makes them PVP clans.

Ok so i have been asking around and no one seems to be 100% sure so i figured i would ask here in hopes that His Lordship him self will answer me =)

As far as being ranked on rsc and tip.it is this including teams like brutality and ancient fury? Just a little confused about what teams are allowed and what ones arnt.

Thanks

Both of those are clans. We had beef with AF because they had a mandatory and people skipped a raid to go.

That's why there was a bit of trouble getting Lee back into WG... his case is unique because he's a long-standing WG member. For anyone else, they would not have been accepted into WG if they were in AF.

I'd stake my tenure in WG that Lee wouldn't skip a WG raid for an AF mand.

yes and neither would i.... so i should be aloud in af?

No, Lee is a long standing and respected member of WG who I have the utmost respect and trust in. eviltardsmile.gif

Damn right I wouldnt. Thanks for that Joe. Probably my bestest buddy in WG biggrin.gif smile.gif ilu

By Samurai-JM on 18/10/2010
community sector was the coolest sector

By WizardOfGod on 25/10/2010
i ike how we are a pvp clan with a strong community even though we are not a community clan we clearly have a good community smile.gif which is even more pro

By Mark on 26/10/2010
QUOTE: WizardOfGod @ October 24, 2010 11:45 pm)
i ike how we are a pvp clan with a strong community even though we are not a community clan we clearly have a good community smile.gif which is even more pro

Agreed.

It's been a while since this topic was made and I'm seeing that it made a big difference. The clan is getting more and more PvP active, getting massive sign-ups to wars and a good number of people coming to raids each week. Notice on the Allied Raid we barely run from anyone anymore. Really happy with the way things are going.

~Mark



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