Opportunity arises

After talking with Kyle, I decided to post our night out feat. Brut, HF, AF and FF on RSC. Results?

We have this conversation every two weeks.

In my opinion, it all comes down to posting on RSC more and more.

It's a shame that you didn't show everyone all of the other nasty comments we also recieved.

I personally like the idea of the first choice you suggested, agreed we need improvements in some parts but I think we have the potential to slingshot back up and stay strong in the higher clan ranks. This is all dependant on what the rest of the clan wants to do though and we'd need the WHOLE clans support and effort to go through with this which would require LOTS of time and perseverance.

-lulz for half finished post-

To be honest, if people returned like the should. They're is no reason why we CANNOT take on Brut and FF.

1. I personally saw those are more trolls on Brut than people praising us.

2. We don't have a strong enough core of pvp-ers to be a real big threat to other clans unless numbers are on our side.

3. it was a 2v1, wg+sabres vs brut and it was a close fight, without the sabres we would have been cleaned up.

sorry to burst everyones bubble but we have alot of work to do before becoming a top 10 clan again. (And in my opinion, if Justin is stepping down, a warlord would be a good start )

He said take on not beat.
Tbh.
but ye BTO is right. We're not in any position to Beat Brut or FF. We need to practise getting our arses back up to GDZ to return.

Perhaps we should get member to film themselves returning to a fight? Trying to get better and better??
and one of us doing it showing hwo to get up there. Pictures are good but video's are even better.

its a game i stopped caring bout ranks on some site years back, just pk for fun and get wars for fun its a game now.

maybe have a competition
we all get to gdz...not pvp world and with no items on us
we all then tele to edge, apart from the main event leader, who will wait there
then we have to re gear and get back
the quickest to re gear with all war inv ect (will be checked) to tele direct will win a trick or something
then the quickest indirect person will win a prize like a trick for example
we could have this occqisionally like before a certain events since its quite a short event itself idk

Lol.

Tip.It would be more welcoming than RSC

Meh. Tif Beats RSC any day

we should raid more, and get more wars before we care about all that stuff

^
Tbh keanu its not hard to do poth unless C&P hurts you?

Wow a guy that is trying to say size matters?

Umm, I think there is this thing called maturity. RSC is lacking in that area by about 3/4 of their members. It is not that the site is bad or that the moderators are doing anything wrong. It is that the audience that they seem to get is way less mature and each has it own agenda to twist things to their own benefit. I don't visit it all that often but every time I do it is the same thing. When you visit TipIt they are actually nice, inviting, helpful, and friendly towards each other in general.

So although you are claiming that size matters, they may not have the qualities that we want in our members. I'm sure that RSC has many nice, mature, and friendly people too. But we see it more in TipIt.

If we are going to do RSC, then for certain we should also be keeping TipIt as our focus. Tom said it best with the Cut and Paste comment.

Well using both I have nothing against. It's just we've been on Tip.It since early 2010, peaked at #9 on the TWR, defeated the #1 clan in P2P, and we haven't gained anything. Compare that to 2 intros with one topic on RSC. Using Tip.It alone won't help us half as much as RSC, even if the quality of the members increases. And in a week on RSC we're already defining a reputation with clans like Brut, DB and Poison. People are starting to get to know WG once again. I will not be too surprised if within a few months we start appearing on the top 10 lists again.

NO keanu we're not There taking the piss.
Basically. You just cba. Thats all it is.
WG will never get anywhere if you dont use all the options available to it. No one ever pumps the recruitement topic on tipit. Other than me.
Wg wont get anywhere unless we get active members. To get active members then in all honesty 1in5 are active for wg. To get these we need to use both. I came through tipit. And if id of known you were a RSC based clan. I would never have joined.

RSC says allowed of carp. They trolled you straight away with the whole #7#8 thing. In my eyes one run in doenst change anything. What you cleared was an EP dd Not brut out fighting. Tipit on the other hand would of seen what it was and given you decent feedback. The gratz and keep going which tbh is what WG needs. None of this #10 #9 whatever. Cos in all honesty we no where even close. Ye we have a ML of what 60? How many of us are active about 15? and turn up to most events.. 1/4 thats not good enough (not including staff)

You creating topics like the Brut one undermines all the recent effort to get back in the game in my opinion. SO much respect was gained from the PVP old school fights recently. And then a topic's created that in my opinion made us a laughing stock again.

The whole All publicity is Good publicity doesnt work. If we're a joke it doesnt do us any good.

to add to armies thing about activity
i see weve had a flurry of applications but i havent seen many people do anything after theyve been accepted
i mean a few have been active but

also has anyone seen i2ipperz he seemed to try and graduate and hhe hasnt posted his last part needed cor his app in weeks
i miss my low lvl raid buddy

ye he was out with us tonight

Well if you want to stick with Tip.It, be my guest. I'll save it for an "I told you so" later.

That makes no sense at all. Do you even read posts no you just comment stupidly then get crap for it. I suggest you start reading things how there wrote before you say another stupid answer like that.

We simply aren't gonna get anything out of Tip.It. We've been a Tip.It clan for the past year. We held #9 on the TWR. We got absolutely nothing. Prove me wrong.

I'd rather we change our focus to RSC completley because with two topics we have AC offers from EoS, advice and support from BK, DW and CR, and even an apology from Poison for crashing our fight. We got congratulated on taking on Brut of all clans several times, when we clearly said we didn't claim anything. People legitimately said it was nice to see us returning to activity in P2P. Not to mention two intros. And we haven't even updated our RSC recruitment topic.

But if you want to keep our recruitment topic bumped on Tip.It as well, be my guest. I personally would not put the extra pressure on the staff to manage publicity on two fansites at this point, I'd rather just the one. And the bigger and seemingly better one at that.

WG today can pull almost 150 opts to wars if we try our hardest - we've seen it. It's simply a matter of showing the clan world we're a force to be reckoned with. If we move onto RSC - the heart of the clan world - and gain the reputation there, we'll grow. If we balance things out on multiple sites and keep going the way we are, we will get nowhere.

Not once has anyone said we stick to one you actually neerd to read things...

Your just being stupid limiting your options.
Atm to me you just being keanu and think he knows whats best. You havnt given anything to argue with at all.

WHo said anything about being a fansite based on tipit?? No one. I just said it doesnt hurt making sure all topics go on there as well as rsc. I think you man have got the wrong end of the stick. We use both to our benefit. I dont care what you do on rsc tbh. The whole forums a shambles. As for you know what works and what doesnt work. Ive been Tif since Oct 06. Ive seen how tifs changed. Hell all the time ive been there ive had a friend on the clan staff. Bufoman , then Dbz and now Joe. CD on Tipit is not what it was. But that doenst mean we neglect it in anyway. Especially atm where alot of people are seemingly going back to TIF. I know being involved with a clan site takes alot of effort. Myself of all is very aware of this. Us in TSA does this in two ways. One. Its our guys that write the tipit times. In the editors and writers we have Lore, Stormrage, Emerson , Deathmath. We also had writers on the tipit clan times. The first MSSW that tipti won it was the fact tsa put as much effort into it as we did made sure we won. Im not saying oh everyone leave RSC and join tipit. THat would be daft. What im saying is. You use both anyway.


The only reason the RSC recruitment thread does well is because people bump it. I cant bump the tipit it one on my own. Because A. its Vephy's post meaning he has the bump button not anyone else. B. Id rather not just have mass posts on the same topic. Doesnt go down well.

Which reminds me the CR gratz's Uffan5 posts all the time anyway. Same thing each topic. He does the same thing on tif. (go look he's posted on there as well as RSC) CR can post on both why cant we? Or are you in some way incapable of doing so?

Ye ive been reply to topic on tif too. Brut thinks your a joke. No offence man. (ill quote them if i have to but im nice )

I must say. TIP.it seems to have grown a bit recently...and it isn't full of idiots and would be a place to start.

But i agree with Keanu...in saying RSC is the dominant clan world atm and it would be a way to get going again

Both Valid reasons

It just depends on how you post on these forums...(meaning the way in which you write the post)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdckx9K5VTI

You ever think that we have a spy? Looking at that footage, we cannot put up a fight against Brut. Don't even try to claim it. Apologize and live on. If you expect to live in the wilderness don't fuck with a clan that will relentlessly try to end you.

And while I am grabbing attention, someone needs to change the freakin' banner. It looks like complete and total shit in the state that it is in. If that is how you want to attract members, then someone needs to have a talk. We used to have a nice system that had a banner rotation, but I guess everyone that knew how to do that is no longer council.

Being active in both tip.it and RSC would be advantageous to us. Of course, easier said than done, selecting only one would not be good as both.

Also, don't think we can take brut. We dont have a single advantage over them.