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Sets requirements Change/enforcement.

By Lee on 30/11/2010
Well, for once keanu has made a post I agree with.

I honestly believe that we can start making a dent in the top rankings of p2p. I realllly do. Brut are fucking rubbish..like seriously. And they're top 10. RDK we're classed as top 10 for ages, even whilst they could only pull 30 to a week prep mand.

What im proposing..is a change to the set requirements. Have a very specific list, of what people HAVE to own. They HAVE to have 2 styles. So even if they are just MSB'ing. They have a spear..and such. When a gear check is done. People have 3 days to post...THAT gear. That very specific gear. Make it so that we HAVE to risk above 200k at all times.

Why should we do this?

Well for 1, I know when we do start running into people. I dont wanna be returning in 550k mage sets all night. Thats just silly. People dont want todo that. Die twice, thats 1.1mil. If we can return in 200k mage sets, we can die 5 times for the same money. Means people wont mind returning as much.

People need to know, that we can win the fight. And if that means that they have to lose pixels to win it. Then so be it.

Raidleaders, you need to host more EP gaining trips, and more raids. This means pking during the day. I know some of you have an issue with team diino, but people wouldnt feel that they had to go elsewhere, if we pk'd all day. Let some of the lower ranked members in the clan host some EP trips. Then 76ks when your done. Or go and barrage out some JAJA. Because thats free loot this time of day.

Dont be afraid of running into 50 options of FF. Or brutality. Even if you just hit them, and fuck off. Atleast they know we are around. Atleast they know, if they need an AC or something. They come to us. Because we can wreck them in p2p, they are going to want us looking after them. We want them to be scared of us. Ending theyre pk trips, because WG is on a PATROL. We know all the EP Spots, send scouts up there. log in under them and barrage them.

Who cares if we get beef because of it. But we will gain respect. And if people respect us, thats when people consider us a clan to come to , aswell as AF BRUT and ROT. Dont start hitting people we cannot take. Like AF and ROT. Because they can ruin us. Then can attend every trip we have, and just clear us over and over. People wont like that, because look what happened to brut. They used to be #2/3. Now theyre shit.

Any comments or anything. Let me know. x

By Armybuilder1 on 30/11/2010
You know man. I think thats summed up what we need to do in pvp to a T.
Tbh you can make a range/mage set thats worth 250k Have been doiing for the last couple of days. 2.5m for 10 sets.

More pking more practise.

In adittion to this though we need to have a tb/ancients list cos the times where there is 15 of us and we have 2/3 tbers is a pain. Even if there just in rags we need more tbers

By Lee on 30/11/2010
you dont need a tber, if you go deep. Where all the big boys go. Gays hang around at GE and CWA. We are not Jaja. We are not RDK.

By Jayson on 30/11/2010
QUOTE: Lee @ November 30, 2010 11:34 pm)
you dont need a tber, if you go deep. Where all the big boys go. Gays hang around at GE and CWA. We are not Jaja. We are not RDK.

^ +1

no more tbers if we fight real clans hash.png

By Randy on 30/11/2010
We could start having smaller pkris and gradually build our way up to get used to returning.

By Lee on 30/11/2010
QUOTE: Randy @ November 30, 2010 07:38 am)
We could start having smaller pkris and gradually build our way up to get used to returning.

yes, completely. Even 30mins to 1 hour caps. You can only die 10 times max in 1 hour. 10 x 200k = 2mil. 10 x 550k = 5.5mil.


By Pyroclastic0 on 30/11/2010
I agree we need more actual fights and maybe do fun raids during other times, maybe go back to a few cwa fights like vs vh before, then head out and pvp that stuff

By Lee on 30/11/2010
Noone does CWA anymore Pyro, thats the thing. Its for down and out clans that are scared to fight in the wilderness.

By WG_Keanu on 30/11/2010
QUOTE: Lee @ November 30, 2010 01:34 pm)
you dont need a tber, if you go deep. Where all the big boys go. Gays hang around at GE and CWA. We are not Jaja. We are not RDK.

+1 good sir.

But no CWA. At all. If we get good at CWA we get worse at PvP, I know from experience.

By Lee on 30/11/2010
QUOTE: WG_Keanu @ November 30, 2010 09:42 am)
QUOTE: Lee November 30, 2010 01:34 pm
you dont need a tber, if you go deep. Where all the big boys go. Gays hang around at GE and CWA. We are not Jaja. We are not RDK.

+1 good sir.

But no CWA. At all. If we get good at CWA we get worse at PvP, I know from experience.

Finally he speaks some sense. Why cant you be this normal all the time (not a troll, flame or bait)

By Armybuilder1 on 30/11/2010
If we go deep then ofc no tbers fair point and i retract what i said but. Atm as we havnt gone deep that often. Its needed.

By Lee on 30/11/2010
Definately need to walk round deeper. Bang out some Jaja and stuff.

By Pyroclastic0 on 30/11/2010
QUOTE: Lee @ November 30, 2010 05:17 pm)
Definately need to walk round deeper. Bang out some Jaja and stuff.

I don't mind that but some WG don't like +1 so we probably wouldn't get the numbers to hit jaja...

By Sativas on 30/11/2010
200k mage sets would def make more people return. That's for sure.

By Quikdrawjoe on 30/11/2010
You assume of course that Brut or FF wouldn't decide to end us.

By Indivi2you on 30/11/2010
Its this simple. People who DO ACTUALLY return those 5 times, have the 800k mage sets and way more than the required ones. People who don't return only have limited sets.

Common logic. I mean you could change it so we have rubbish gear, but I for one will continue coming in elite gear and I'm positive people with true love for raiding will as well.

By Planolocal on 01/12/2010
fo sho

By Lee on 01/12/2010
QUOTE: Pyroclastic0 @ November 30, 2010 01:06 pm)
QUOTE: Lee November 30, 2010 05:17 pm
Definately need to walk round deeper. Bang out some Jaja and stuff.

I don't mind that but some WG don't like +1 so we probably wouldn't get the numbers to hit jaja...

You dont have to have a +1 to be in a +1 world...you just bpile them or something.. practise organization for when we actually hit someone good.

@Joe - yes, they could, but we have the numbers and stuff to make a stand against FF and Brut. Give them a good scrap. And if we know they're looking for us. Then we can go and look for them. If they hunt us, we will hunt them back. So they get used to us being there. At there every pk trip. At there every fight. Just watching and waiting. Ac for them, make them respect us.


Yes saad, but say someone like keanu. Hes poor as fuck, as he runs around f2p. So if we can get it so hes risking the same as a f2p set, hes more likely to return for the whole hour.

Im not saying we go straight for an uncapped fight and just get me, randy and darth return for 8 hours. Cause thats not cool at all. Im talking 1 hour, in pvp. Against someone good. Ok, they will probably post an RSC topic against us. But atleast WE are stepping up.

Even something like 'Brut vs WG. 1 Hour cap' - Dont tell me seeing something like that in RSC clan discussion isnt cool as fuck?

By rachellove9 on 01/12/2010
I don't like +1 worlds myself. I want to know what will change if I am not taking the expensive item. Why will it suddenly be an okay world to go to? Does this have to do with going deep?

If we go to three days for gear check, how often are you thinking they should be done? ATM I am hearing that I'm having them to often and they are to much gp. I review the list and change things as needed, but I always get input from clan members.

By Aragon on 14/12/2010
Hey Lee! This is a good suggestion, I'll give my opinion on it:

When you war in Moonclan robes, or anything lower than mystic in P2P it's considered "rag gear," and if we do get into a fight as a clan we'll look really bad and gain a bad rep very quickly if we ever bring that type of gear into the wild (everybody that is). A solution to this is have a cap on how many times you can die in mystic before you switch to Lunar robes, for instance, die 3 times in mystic, then you are granted permission to return in moonclan.

We should definitely have more money-making friendly events, such as GWD/PvM competitions with other small clans such as Envy or Ascension. You can never have too much money, it will also help others train their range/magic/prayer/summoning!

By Fbi3255 on 14/12/2010
Our sets right now should be about 10 i know people dont think there useful but that is what is required to have. I dont think changing the sets will help right mind we need to change our state of mind. If your not training i have been hosting a small PK Trip almost daily at about 12 PM GMT quite a few people have come and enjoy it. We all make money and its much better tanking and switching experience than raids. I still have to improve, so can everyone. I agree with lee we need to get out there and get people trained up so when we get to those wars we can give them something that only the best clans have. A sense of your clan and what needs to be done. We need to get everyone in mage, mages win wars and get kills even if its blitz or TB's they do so much more than you think. The rangers might get the kills because that have the DPS and people like to do this to get the drops but if everyone mages the overall Kills skyrocket. I hope everyone trains their mage and gets to 82.

By Lee on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Aragon @ December 13, 2010 07:12 pm)
Hey Lee! This is a good suggestion, I'll give my opinion on it:

When you war in Moonclan robes, or anything lower than mystic in P2P it's considered "rag gear," and if we do get into a fight as a clan we'll look really bad and gain a bad rep very quickly if we ever bring that type of gear into the wild (everybody that is). A solution to this is have a cap on how many times you can die in mystic before you switch to Lunar robes, for instance, die 3 times in mystic, then you are granted permission to return in moonclan.

We should definitely have more money-making friendly events, such as GWD/PvM competitions with other small clans such as Envy or Ascension. You can never have too much money, it will also help others train their range/magic/prayer/summoning!

im not saying full moonclan biggrin.gif luls, I mean like...top or bottom, dependin on who it is, and if they can afford it. Im just trying to think of other ways people will return and not want to risk bank. Thats what i mean biggrin.gif

cause i know in af...we have to risk like 200k+ at all times. which is a fair risk..



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