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No Hoods Allowed During Wars

By Aragon on 13/12/2010
At our last war vs. Poison, we had many KO's on our part. One of the main reasons is because 1) People didn't put on prayer (which should always be first, as soon as you hear yourself get hit, put on prayer!) but also because everybody was wearing hoods, which is basically asking to get sniped/piled. Not to mention, it takes longer to put on full rune.

I'm not sure about that bonus with Druidic Robes (personally I use RC robes, they're blue so it looks like rune, which is somewhat harder to tell who's blasting), but if we have enough binders at least one is ought to hit. It will save us a lot of KO's and it wont have any effect on our binds.

tl;dr no hoods at wars, less ko's



By Mark on 13/12/2010
It's like +3 mage bonus. Hard to get mage bonus in F2P these already.

I myself would rather where it so the binds actually hit.

By Armybuilder1 on 13/12/2010
I know what you mean. But personally i prefer the hood. Means i know when the full set is on. + dont you only get the bonus of the set if it is on?

By Aragon on 13/12/2010
QUOTE: Armybuilder1 @ December 13, 2010 05:40 pm)
I know what you mean. But personally i prefer the hood. Means i know when the full set is on. + dont you only get the bonus of the set if it is on?

Yes you do, but there's no point, you can still easily catch binds without it as long as you have your robe top + bottom on, they give enough bonus to constantly catch binds (heck, I've caught a bind in full rune before) so if anything there's more positive that negative in implementing this rule, since there will most likely be less 1-hits on our side.

By Indivi2you on 13/12/2010
Learn to tank, problem solved.

By Randy on 13/12/2010
If some people are having trouble tanking then absolutely do it.

By Jayson on 14/12/2010
if you are struggling that bad in an all styles war that you cant put on robes without getting roflstomped, then just range tbh. If we have a strong bind unit of like randy/me and whoever else binds good (dunno who lolz) we shouldnt really need everyone to bind.

By Kevin on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Jayson December 13, 2010 06:07 pm
if you are struggling that bad in an all styles war that you cant put on robes without getting roflstomped, then just range tbh. If we have a strong bind unit of like randy/me and whoever else binds good (dunno who lolz) we shouldnt really need everyone to bind.

We need way more people binding than just you and Randy. What happens if you're getting piled and Randy is in the midst of returning?

I understand that was just an example, but the more people binding = more successful binds = less the target can move, quicker he is downed.

By Elyxiatic on 14/12/2010
Top clans don't allow hoods in f2p.
Finally a good suggestion.

By Jayson on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Kevin @ December 14, 2010 11:22 am)
QUOTE: Jayson December 13, 2010 06:07 pm
if you are struggling that bad in an all styles war that you cant put on robes without getting roflstomped, then just range tbh. If we have a strong bind unit of like randy/me and whoever else binds good (dunno who lolz) we shouldnt really need everyone to bind.

We need way more people binding than just you and Randy. What happens if you're getting piled and Randy is in the midst of returning?

I understand that was just an example, but the more people binding = more successful binds = less the target can move, quicker he is downed.

you only really need 5 binders ish in a pkri/cwri. You want as many rangers as possible to hybrid and do damage.

hitting someone who isnt moving with melee into melee prayer aint gonna do crap

By Aragon on 14/12/2010
That brings up another point... only people with a certain range level should be ranging. If you're 80 range, you're more useful binding. Even if you have a lower mage level.

Level 96 Range is the highest level you need to have the potential to hit the highest ranging with Adamant arrows in F2P. Looking at our memberlist, 23 people currently meet that requirement. Perhaps if it was a requirement to have 90 Range during Melee/Binds/Range fights in order to range (33 members meet this requirement - ~Half our ML). During all style fights perhaps have the requirement to be 96+ because we need more magers (blasters/binders) than we do rangers.

To monitor who has the required range level and who doesn't we should do style checks before wars (have different TeamSpeak channels with Melee/Binds, Melee/Range, or etc. if all styles) and have people move down to them ~5 minutes before we walk over to CWA. This will give people an idea of what styles we need more and who is doing what.

*Note - This only applies to F2P CWA fights of course.

By Quikdrawjoe on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Elyxiatic @ December 14, 2010 12:25 am)
Top clans don't allow hoods in f2p.
Finally a good suggestion.

TT had EVERYONE in full druidic + a staff binder who was a great tank.
Full Druidic has a set effect that increase the chance the bind will land. RC robes don't and they're normally less effective.

By Aragon on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ December 13, 2010 07:37 pm)
QUOTE: Elyxiatic December 14, 2010 12:25 am
Top clans don't allow hoods in f2p.
Finally a good suggestion.

TT had EVERYONE in full druidic + a staff binder who was a great tank.
Full Druidic has a set effect that increase the chance the bind will land. RC robes don't and they're normally less effective.

Key words, good tank, which not many titans are hash.png Plus if we did that everybody would just say "I can tank 399 opts np" and disregard whatever we have in place and wear full robes anyways.

Again with the RC Robes, I've been using them for over a year, and catch just as many binds as people do with Druidic. Not to mention, Druidic still works without the hood lol king.gif It still gives mage bonuses.

By Elyxiatic on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ December 14, 2010 10:37 am)
QUOTE: Elyxiatic December 14, 2010 12:25 am
Top clans don't allow hoods in f2p.
Finally a good suggestion.

TT had EVERYONE in full druidic + a staff binder who was a great tank.
Full Druidic has a set effect that increase the chance the bind will land. RC robes don't and they're normally less effective.

But all of TT would be decent tanks, so of course they'd let them all have hoods.

Reminder that we're not all pro tanks as well.
Half of WG would get ko'd in a large scale war.
You want to make them stand out more when they already have little chance of actually tanking?


By Quikdrawjoe on 14/12/2010
QUOTE: Aragon December 14, 2010 12:39 am
       
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe  December 13, 2010 07:37 pm
       
QUOTE: Elyxiatic  December 14, 2010 12:25 am
Top clans don't allow hoods in f2p.
Finally a good suggestion.

TT had EVERYONE in full druidic + a staff binder who was a great tank.
Full Druidic has a set effect that increase the chance the bind will land. RC robes don't and they're normally less effective.

Key words, good tank, which not many titans are hash.png Plus if we did that everybody would just say "I can tank 399 opts np" and disregard whatever we have in place and wear full robes anyways.

Again with the RC Robes, I've been using them for over a year, and catch just as many binds as people do with Druidic. Not to mention, Druidic still works without the hood lol king.gif It still gives mage bonuses.

Set bonus only applies for full set if not wearing full set RC robes have higher mage bonus.


QUOTE: Elyxiatic December 14, 2010 12:43 am
       
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe  December 14, 2010 10:37 am
       
QUOTE: Elyxiatic  December 14, 2010 12:25 am
Top clans don't allow hoods in f2p.
Finally a good suggestion.

TT had EVERYONE in full druidic + a staff binder who was a great tank.
Full Druidic has a set effect that increase the chance the bind will land. RC robes don't and they're normally less effective.

But all of TT would be decent tanks, so of course they'd let them all have hoods.

Reminder that we're not all pro tanks as well.
Half of WG would get ko'd in a large scale war.
You want to make them stand out more when they already have little chance of actually tanking?


I don't know if 1 item is really the difference between most people getting KOed anyway.
In a large scale war half of WG would get KOed anyway with or without hoods.
If everyone's wearing the same robes how do they stick out more? People shouldn't be in rune anyway.

By Zooby69 on 14/12/2010
tl;dr.

L2tank everyone

By Elyxiatic on 14/12/2010
Not even going to bother writing anything back to what Joe said.
Not worth my time, when half of WG don't really care too much about tanking/binding.

By Aragon on 16/12/2010
o wasnt only about taking, forgot to add this in orig. post.

@ the collision war today, their snipers did mad work on our main pile cuz everybody was wearing a hood... i can guarantee not many people would have have been ko'd by snipers or sniped as much if you wore a rune full helm.

By Jayson on 16/12/2010
i wore helm abit and i did notice i wasnt getting sniped as much, but binds wernt hitting as much =\

By Armybuilder1 on 16/12/2010
I disagree i was so,etimes in hood sometimes in full helm. I found the snipers doing the opposite. Hoods are fine just people need to be ready for snipers and we need some anti snipe



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