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Goodbye Keanu

By rachellove9 on 08/01/2011
I'm to sad to say much. I was pretty harsh with him. I'm not a perfect leader and I hope I don't leave WG down to often.

Please read his link, if you care to know more.

My Webpage by Keanu

Please be respectful to Gene and myself, we both will feel bad about this. Please don't flame Keanu. I've suspended him for his behavior and he can't read and respond anyway. I really don't want drama.

If you can't be respectful, simply say Goodbye.

Thanks
Rachy



By Indivi2you on 08/01/2011
Interesting read.

By Danb1992 on 08/01/2011
Deleted Aragons post, it was un needed

By Rodney75 on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Aragon January 07, 2011 08:55 pm
Good.

You're a dick. Keep comments like this to yourself. Totally unnecessary and not needed on a thread like this.

I'm re-reading this again and again, something doesn't make sense. I don't understand.

EDIT:
He meets the requirements. A requirement isn't: 'Go train at AZS 5 hours a day'.
The hours of work he puts in FOR WG. We need the history, wiki etc. Read applicant's intros, they do really read it.
He's active in game. He's active in IRC. He attends events, both RL and in game.

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.

He gets a lot of s**t, but it's only from a select group. Not the 70 odd people he associated it with.

Don't like this. He will be missed.

By Aragon on 08/01/2011
I'm not a dick. This was more than necessary. You probably have no idea what Keanu did to me.

I am not the kind of person to just hate people and disrespect somebody for no reason. You have to earn disrespect from me, which Keanu did.

Today I got 99 Firemaking. I worked really hard for it. After the Guard event I took everybody up north and got the level. Keanu planted flowers everywhere I was trying to get the level, and I missed all of the spam everybody had typed up because everybody pressed enter when I counted down to 1. Keanu planted flowers MULTIPLE times when I tried to get the level, and messed up everything. That on top of:

- Bringing DDS on Raids multiple times for absolutely ridiculous reasons
- Leaving Raids because not given voice on TS
- Having complete and udder disrespect for Council members by making inappropriate comments
- Bragging about nearly everything and thinks of himself highly out loud
- Acting like he outranks council members (i.e. 420 war)
- Hiding at a war so we wouldn't drop him, yet he warred over people who deserved to war more than he did (i.e somebody who was 94 mage dropped and he's 70 mage) refer to the Collision war.
- Never having the minimum amount of sets, or a good combat level.

It's good to see his dedication to the clan's history but the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to his membership to this clan.

Goodbye Keanu, hopefully if you decide to come back you will think before your actions and be a bit more mature.

edit: If you read the little memo he made, he said this:

QUOTE
So, let's talk recent. I ruined Aragon's 99 FM today. Who gave me the mental idea to do that?
http://www.wildernessguardians.com/photos/...0/img/epdd2.png
You did, WG. Maybe mine wasn't a 99 achievement but that ^ told me not to take level ups and congratulations seriously.


Let's look at that picture:

user posted image

He ruined my party because of something I had absolutely nothing to do with. I am the Mage standing out with gold boots to the west. Maybe people can understand why I'm pissed off now. Instead of apologizing he tries to act innocent.

By Randy on 08/01/2011
This is only because he always wants to be the center of attention.

He was going to be cut from a war so he something stupid simply for attention.
Aragon was getting 99 fm and he wanted to put the attention on himself so he ruined it.
The historian rank? Attention.
This being the most dramatic leaving post story ever... Attention.

Edit: Aragon made a better list.

Put the clan above yourself and you'll earn its respect.

By markenzie1 on 08/01/2011
although i was against a lot of dicesions keanu made, i still liked him.
keanu has done a lot for wg involving making the clan history and things like those.
i admire the dedictation keanu had and i don't think this should have ended like this.

goodbye keanu=(

By Rodney75 on 08/01/2011
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?

By Danb1992 on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Aragon @ January 07, 2011 09:04 pm)
- Acting like he outranks council members (i.e. 420 war)

- Never having the minimum amount of sets, or a good combat level.

I don't agree with these,

1, Keanu said he had the councils backing up on organising this war and if he didn't i'm sure the council would have said something.

2, The clan has requirements for "100+ F2P" i've seen Keanu training at bandits within the past month while i've been on my way to switch onto ancients.

He has been training, just because he isn't a high a level as you doesn't mean hes a "bad" combat level. Maybe he doesn't have the required amount of sets but not everyone has a huge amount of money in the bank.

Keanu doesn't get much respect and all the banter about telling him to "go train" is a bit of fun but then people take it too far and I don't think he deserves all these comments. Especially when hes leaving.

By Mark on 08/01/2011
I'm agreeing with Randy at this point.

By Aragon on 08/01/2011
I'm not going to argue with you Dan. We are all entitled to our own opinions.

e: I didn't mean so much combat level as a bad thing, just something he needed to work on. The sets is mainly what I'm talking about, although that still isn't as much of a factor as the other things I listed.

By Randy on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Rodney75 @ January 07, 2011 10:24 pm)
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?

I don't see why a 3 page story about how he's a victim is necessary, ESPECIALLY when he's clearly wrong. If he got suspended and wrote a 3 page apology then I would be a bit nicer.

By Quikdrawjoe on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Randy January 08, 2011 02:18 am
This is only because he always wants to be the center of attention.

He was going to be cut from a war so he something stupid simply for attention.
Aragon was getting 99 fm and he wanted to put the attention on himself so he ruined it.
The historian rank? Attention.
This being the most dramatic leaving post story ever... Attention.

Edit: Aragon made a better list.

Put the clan above yourself and you'll earn its respect.

I called it yet again. Maybe people should listen instead of deleting my posts. I can recall quite a few examples with people who did nothing but seek attention, it always comes down to the same pattern.
Oh well, that's the way it goes.

QUOTE: Rodney75 January 08, 2011 02:24 am
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?


I've already seen people's replies. He's causing more drama and attention seeking with the 3 page rant, wrong way to go if you want less drama. tface.gif

By Kyle on 08/01/2011
If he actually did all the stuff that he did for the glory of WG, not himself, he wouldn't be pissing so many people off.

By Rodney75 on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Randy January 07, 2011 09:27 pm
       
QUOTE: Rodney75  January 07, 2011 10:24 pm
Guys. As much tension/drama as there is, please respect that this is a leaving topic. There's no need for long lists of negatives. I believe there is another thread to post your constructive criticisms if you think you must.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all.

Think, if this was your leaving topic, would you want it to be directed like this?

I don't see why a 3 page story about how he's a victim is necessary, ESPECIALLY when he's clearly wrong. If he got suspended and wrote a 3 page apology then I would be a bit nicer.

I'm not asking for false-ness, or for people to pretend nice. I'n not defending him either.

Keanu was always going to have a complex-drama full leaving topic-post-thing. It wouldn't be in his character otherwise. But he's leaving, can't we respect the things he did for this clan, rather than the messy-stuff? I do understand your points. But I really wouldn't like to see all this if I ever left WG. We're WG, we have a nice community. Just want to respect that.

By Rodney75 on 08/01/2011
Ok. Wasn't here to argue or defend anyone. Just to try keep a nice community leaving post. I'm off this thread.

Goodbye Keanu. Thank you for what you've done for us. I will remember the work you have done. Good luck wherever you go from here.

edit: Didn't double post, a post got deleted. Kinda relevant and irrelevant now..

By rachellove9 on 08/01/2011
This is very close to being locked.

By Mickey on 08/01/2011
He'll be back.

By Jayson on 08/01/2011
I saw this on my Iphone and i made sure i would come onto my laptop to post.

This is a tough issue.

On one hand, he was a slacking member who didnt have sets, bragged about that fact. Showed no intention to train to improve for raids/wars. Always broke rules such as gear requirements on raids. And often was an attention seeking person who's only intention was to keep the spotlight on him.

However.

His detication to non pvp matters was second to only lordy himself.

When comparing members who made a difference to WG, Keanu would surely be up there. His work on making the clan more public and easier to access as well as applying was excellent.

But his need for attention and power will be his downfall.

Had he not wanted to be a 'stand out' member and just did the work it could have been alot better for him.

Goodbye Keanu, you'll be missed.

By His_Lordship on 08/01/2011
Actually it's better this happened sooner rather than later.
He did not have the capacity to change.

By VEPHYSAURAS on 08/01/2011
Well I don't particularly like this ugly thread but goodbye Keanu. You did some good and some bad things. Guess I'll try to remember the good now that you are gone.

By Dallar on 08/01/2011
I liked him and I'll miss him..

But the historian rank was wrong.. Just wrong..



By Nick on 08/01/2011
Goodbye.

I am so confused that I don't even know what to say.

You had amazing intentions at least.

By theboy126 on 08/01/2011
Honestly, it was for the better and for the worse. Keanu does work for WG, but then again what randy said, "he wants attention", and that's something he needs to improve to avoid happening. I don't blame the kid, but sometime I just want to choke him for even saying stupid shit. You can't help this to be honest. Not trying to be messed up, just saying what I've been seeing out of him. He hasn't been himself.

Keanu good luck in future stuff and go max out!


-Joey

By Garrett on 08/01/2011
i have mixed feelings, im pretty sure hes not leaving
but im also pretty sure he wont change, which is what most of us want

By Eregion2 on 08/01/2011
Situation is unfortunate, but unfortunately the conclusion wasn't unexpected.

Hopefully this can be learned from rather than everyone running around covering their own asses and playing the blame game, trying to cover up the possibility that this reflects deeper issues in WG than just a single person's personality.

Rooting for you guys.

// edit //

Not to imply that I think Keanu being in WG is a lost cause. But from what I've noticed just in the forums I still have access to there'll have to be some wisening up on both sides.

By Slayz0rr on 08/01/2011
Bah, We'll miss you keanu


If you get to read this: Sorry i was an arsehole to you at times. You didn't deserve most of it.

Luke, x

PS: My dog still thinks you're a cunt.

By Orthux on 08/01/2011
I'm pretty sad that you're leaving, I never really spoke to you much one to one but whenever you entered Teamspeak you made me smile. The fact that you could handle all of the crap you were given and still be happy/still put in so much effort for this clan IS amazing.
I just hope you realise that not everyone in this clan hates you because that isn't the case at all. People are just worried to speak out against those few who do and often people pick up the insults thrown at you and just follow the crowd.

Every raid you hosted I enjoyed so much and I was really hoping that you had a chance of getting RL over the coming weeks. I guess all I can say is bye since you'll have no way of reading this.

By Zooby69 on 08/01/2011
I expected him to last forever, even through all the trolling everyone gave him.

He did not have the sets required, but half of our members have the sets so don't act like he is the only one.

From what I can see Aragon had a right bitch about someone ruining his 99 firemaking party, get over it.

Respect what Rachel has said and don't flame Keanu. He was a dedicated member, even over dedicated.

- Bringing DDS on Raids multiple times for absolutely ridiculous reasons

This was allowed for impromtu raids with like 4 people.

People have done worse things and been allowed to stay. This is ridiculous.

By ZurvivorMan on 08/01/2011
Goodbye Keanu, you were a great guy! I had nothing against you.
GL irl and rs smile.gif

By Brent147 on 08/01/2011
Though I probably haven't been here long enough for my opinion to warrant any amount of great significance I will share it will each of you anyway, in the hopes that some of you may see Keanu in a different light.

I've not known Keanu for very long but, I can honestly say that he is very different than most people. I believe that he has amazing ambitions and loves Wilderness Guardians in his own special way. As many of you have stated, your not sure whether it is for the best or the worse.

Keanu came to me for advice on this subject and I suggested to him that he take a break from the community and consider what it means to him. I told him to think about the time he spent with some of you at RuneFest, and asked him to consider what sort of family Wilderness Guardians has become for him.

I honestly believe that after a period of consideration, he will again return with a fresh attitude. Of course each of us in turn will have to be more accepting of who Keanu is as a person. His character should not be in question in this instance, so much as the behavior displayed, and everyone knows that behaviors change over time. I ask all of you to think of this as a minor set back for Keanu and when he returns, welcome him with open arms.

I wish you luck in all of your endeavors Keanu.

Respect, Love, and Regards.
:Brent147

By Kevin on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Zooby69 January 08, 2011 02:11 am
People have done worse things and been allowed to stay. This is ridiculous.

He has made the choice to leave the clan.

By creeper975 on 08/01/2011
Well tbh Keanu was a good guy at heart. Although he never did the right things, he got so much shit from a few people in particular that he did not deserve.

By Vulcan Sin on 08/01/2011
I didn't see this coming, He still seemed enthusiastic about WG whatever shit he took.

I started to talk to him more recently in IRC, and we had a few good conversations.

But, Goodbye Keanu

By Frozen_10 on 08/01/2011
It surprised me that Keanu didn't leave earlier tbh.
He was a great guy.

Good bye Keanu.

By Lee on 08/01/2011
Ill never forgive you for what you did to me.....

Cya pal.


By His_Lordship on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Lee @ January 08, 2011 01:26 pm)
Ill never forgive you for what you did to me.....

Cya pal.

Forgiveness isn't in your vocabulary. It is your weakness.

By Brent147 on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Lee @ January 08, 2011 08:26 am)
Ill never forgive you for what you did to me.....

Cya pal.

There is magic in sincere forgiveness; in the forgiveness you give, but more so in the forgiveness you receive.

By Fbi3255 on 08/01/2011
Dont agree with this topic.

Dont agree with Keanu, but try control yourselves.

By George on 08/01/2011
Never been more angry with WG than right now.
Yes he did a lot wrong. A lot. But he didn't deserve even ONE QUARTER of the shit that you all gave him.
This is your fault WG. I include myself in this blame.

By Sativas on 08/01/2011
Link doesn't work for me so all I can say is goodbye Keanu.

By Kung Man149 on 08/01/2011
I don't know what the Hell happened so all I can say is Goodbye Keanu, you're a right good kid but try to control yourself.

By Bambaleo on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Aragon @ January 08, 2011 02:04 am)
I'm not a dick. This was more than necessary. You probably have no idea what Keanu did to me.

I am not the kind of person to just hate people and disrespect somebody for no reason. You have to earn disrespect from me, which Keanu did.

Today I got 99 Firemaking. I worked really hard for it. After the Guard event I took everybody up north and got the level. Keanu planted flowers everywhere I was trying to get the level, and I missed all of the spam everybody had typed up because everybody pressed enter when I counted down to 1. Keanu planted flowers MULTIPLE times when I tried to get the level, and messed up everything. That on top of:

- Bringing DDS on Raids multiple times for absolutely ridiculous reasons
- Leaving Raids because not given voice on TS
- Having complete and udder disrespect for Council members by making inappropriate comments
- Bragging about nearly everything and thinks of himself highly out loud
- Acting like he outranks council members (i.e. 420 war)
- Hiding at a war so we wouldn't drop him, yet he warred over people who deserved to war more than he did (i.e somebody who was 94 mage dropped and he's 70 mage) refer to the Collision war.
- Never having the minimum amount of sets, or a good combat level.

It's good to see his dedication to the clan's history but the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to his membership to this clan.

Goodbye Keanu, hopefully if you decide to come back you will think before your actions and be a bit more mature.

edit: If you read the little memo he made, he said this:

QUOTE
So, let's talk recent. I ruined Aragon's 99 FM today. Who gave me the mental idea to do that?
http://www.wildernessguardians.com/photos/...0/img/epdd2.png
You did, WG. Maybe mine wasn't a 99 achievement but that ^ told me not to take level ups and congratulations seriously.


Let's look at that picture:

user posted image

He ruined my party because of something I had absolutely nothing to do with. I am the Mage standing out with gold boots to the west. Maybe people can understand why I'm pissed off now. Instead of apologizing he tries to act innocent.

go cry. It still doesn't give you the right to say that...nice introduction to your new rank.

By Kung Man149 on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Bambaleo @ January 08, 2011 02:46 pm)
QUOTE: Aragon January 08, 2011 02:04 am
I'm not a dick. This was more than necessary. You probably have no idea what Keanu did to me.

I am not the kind of person to just hate people and disrespect somebody for no reason. You have to earn disrespect from me, which Keanu did.

Today I got 99 Firemaking. I worked really hard for it. After the Guard event I took everybody up north and got the level. Keanu planted flowers everywhere I was trying to get the level, and I missed all of the spam everybody had typed up because everybody pressed enter when I counted down to 1. Keanu planted flowers MULTIPLE times when I tried to get the level, and messed up everything. That on top of:

- Bringing DDS on Raids multiple times for absolutely ridiculous reasons
- Leaving Raids because not given voice on TS
- Having complete and udder disrespect for Council members by making inappropriate comments
- Bragging about nearly everything and thinks of himself highly out loud
- Acting like he outranks council members (i.e. 420 war)
- Hiding at a war so we wouldn't drop him, yet he warred over people who deserved to war more than he did (i.e somebody who was 94 mage dropped and he's 70 mage) refer to the Collision war.
- Never having the minimum amount of sets, or a good combat level.

It's good to see his dedication to the clan's history but the negatives outweigh the positives when it comes to his membership to this clan.

Goodbye Keanu, hopefully if you decide to come back you will think before your actions and be a bit more mature.

edit: If you read the little memo he made, he said this:

       
QUOTE
So, let's talk recent. I ruined Aragon's 99 FM today. Who gave me the mental idea to do that?
http://www.wildernessguardians.com/photos/...0/img/epdd2.png
You did, WG. Maybe mine wasn't a 99 achievement but that ^ told me not to take level ups and congratulations seriously.


Let's look at that picture:

user posted image

He ruined my party because of something I had absolutely nothing to do with. I am the Mage standing out with gold boots to the west. Maybe people can understand why I'm pissed off now. Instead of apologizing he tries to act innocent.

go cry. It still doesn't give you the right to say that...nice introduction to your new rank.

Bam ,ease up.
I'm sure you'd be pretty pissed if someone fucked up your hard earned 99.
Let him vent and don't attack him for it..Please.

By Aragon on 08/01/2011
I had to get that off my chest. I'm not as angry anymore but rude comments like that don't help.

By Kevin on 08/01/2011
QUOTE: Bambaleo @ January 08, 2011 01:46 pm)
go cry. It still doesn't give you the right to say that...nice introduction to your new rank.

He has every right to voice his opinion.

What the hell gives you the right to troll?

By rachellove9 on 08/01/2011
It is such a disappointment. I'm locking the topic. I hope Keanu never ever sees this and I hope no one is stupid enough to leak.

Keanu may be gone from WG but he is now part of our history.





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