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By Quikdrawjoe on 13/04/2011
lolz
By Nick on 13/04/2011
Joe for fall in leader.
Epic idea though. I think this method would change the ways of warring immensely.
By Zemus3654 on 13/04/2011
Would take a good bit of organisation and such, in some cases it might be harder to find the pile as fast.
Could work, probably only good for big pkris where our fi leaders are constantly dying though.
Or maybe we should just get more raid leaders

, we only have 2 warlords 1 raid leader?
By Mark on 13/04/2011
I suggested this at a war once but no it wasn't exactly encouraged.
/facedesk
By Kevin on 13/04/2011
QUOTE: Mark April 12, 2011 10:38 pm |
I suggested this at a war once but no it wasn't exactly encouraged.
/facedesk
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It's doesn't seem logical, nor easy, to start using that method on a moment's notice.
By Kung Man149 on 13/04/2011
Which is why it would be smart to implement it into a war every so often to see if it works and go from the results.
By Raging Mage2 on 13/04/2011
Sounds like it could work.
Even if we used the same callers we do at the moment, and just have a few more fall in leaders, where they just get dropped, and the callers just keep calling.
By Zooby69 on 13/04/2011
This is a good idea, the council should atleast bring this idea up at their next meeting, if not, implement it now
By Armybuilder1 on 13/04/2011
When we rish in of we're attacking its the best idea tbh.
Stops the chance of piling the caller for first pile.
The rest of the way tbh just make a 3x3 box and walk across. Looks good and whose who is just as hard to see
By Mark on 13/04/2011
QUOTE: Kevin @ April 13, 2011 05:15 pm) |
QUOTE: Mark April 12, 2011 10:38 pm |
I suggested this at a war once but no it wasn't exactly encouraged.
/facedesk
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It's doesn't seem logical, nor easy, to start using that method on a moment's notice.
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K so um.
Member leads the run into them (cant be hard unless you have no sense of direction)
Have a list of Fall in Leaders (who are tanks)
Have a list of Callers (who don't take fall ins)
???
Profit.
By Tnuac on 13/04/2011
Great idea joe.
On top of that its always hard for fall-in leaders to start looking for people when they've constantly got to defend themselves.
Only works if the fall-in leader and caller are together though, and if one dies they gotta make it clear in TS so the next one can step up.
By WizardOfGod on 13/04/2011
Use to do this in cwa warring i would make a random member a general to accept fights and type in game for us to fi or setup formation so scouts/other clan didn't know it was me calling.. Worked everytime but maybe just have *example randy call from the fall in..
By Fbi3255 on 13/04/2011
This is only really appropriate for the first fall in leader after that in big wars in P2P noone really falls in and in F2P organisation should be good to not need something like this. Also creates people talking over eachother on teamspeak calling piles and fall ins.
By jaredspurr on 13/04/2011
something ive learned over in dw, in pkri say randy is the main caller he would call till he died, then whoever he trust the most (if anyone) they would switch accts so randy would still be at the fight while the other person gears randy's acct up and brings it back to the war.
By Buzzard1985 on 13/04/2011
The reason the fall-in leader is the caller to is because what if the person who is calling and not leading the fall in calls somebody out but the fall in leader cannot see the person to bring the rest of the clan to that person?
By WizardOfGod on 13/04/2011
the callers calls the fall in on the fall in leader the fall in leader, basically the fall in leader is a decoy....
By Quikdrawjoe on 13/04/2011
QUOTE: Mark @ April 13, 2011 07:39 am) |
QUOTE: Kevin April 13, 2011 05:15 pm |
QUOTE: Mark April 12, 2011 10:38 pm |
I suggested this at a war once but no it wasn't exactly encouraged.
/facedesk
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It's doesn't seem logical, nor easy, to start using that method on a moment's notice.
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K so um.
Member leads the run into them (cant be hard unless you have no sense of direction)
Have a list of Fall in Leaders (who are tanks)
Have a list of Callers (who don't take fall ins)
???
Profit.
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/obvious
@Buzz, because WG piles the person who is not in their pile anyway so it should be fairly obvious.
By Buzzard1985 on 13/04/2011
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ April 13, 2011 02:28 pm) |
QUOTE: Mark April 13, 2011 07:39 am |
QUOTE: Kevin April 13, 2011 05:15 pm |
QUOTE: Mark April 12, 2011 10:38 pm |
I suggested this at a war once but no it wasn't exactly encouraged.
/facedesk
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It's doesn't seem logical, nor easy, to start using that method on a moment's notice.
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K so um.
Member leads the run into them (cant be hard unless you have no sense of direction)
Have a list of Fall in Leaders (who are tanks)
Have a list of Callers (who don't take fall ins)
???
Profit.
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/obvious
@Buzz, because WG piles the person who is not in their pile anyway so it should be fairly obvious.
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True, but for a larger clan this would be quite hard to try. So my point isn't valid
By Dieyou2000 on 14/04/2011
Joe nh.
By Randy on 14/04/2011
Sounds good in writing but it would be a lot harder to do than say.
Part of calling piles is bringing the fall-in TO the target, not running there and THEN saying "come here"
By Quikdrawjoe on 14/04/2011
QUOTE: Randy @ April 14, 2011 04:13 am) |
Sounds good in writing but it would be a lot harder to do than say. Part of calling piles is bringing the fall-in TO the target, not running there and THEN saying "come here"
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I did it impromptu with Dieyou as my meatshield and it worked pretty well.
We either need more leaders (or people who lead during fights) or we need a change in our system. We can't have only 2-3 leaders every fight and then have long silences.
By George on 14/04/2011
That's really good.
So literally, you could have someone completely random as a Fall In leader, but our warlord and raid leaders etc as Callers?
That sounds like a plan!
By RobbieThe1st on 15/04/2011
One other option might be to do it the "sneaky" way. If we're warring at GDs, get someone with a level 10 account to call. If we're doing CWA, have someone spectate and call(Note: they fixed it, at least with the 'wide open terrain' map - the view points overlap). The caller would be able to focus on tracking people around and looking for straying members, as well as /not/ having to worry about dying at the same time.
It might take a little work to perfect, and not having an extra account in the war might be a problem, but it /might/ just give us an edge -- Especially in matched fights!
By Jayson on 15/04/2011
eh, ill tell you what i dislike about the ideas.
1. If the person leading the fall in gets killed during a pile, it will cause confusion.
2. Fall in leaders rarely get piled for WG since there are so many below average tanks.
3. If people cant find the pile, the can follow the fall in leader to 1 step away from pile, useful only if the fall in leader can see it.
If it ever comes to the time where I get piled so much we can do something like this, but I wouldn't want to rely on it.
By DZ on 15/04/2011
In theory this sounds great and I've thought about it before too but there are a lot of flaws which have already been pointed out by others. We should also attempt to limit the use of fall ins and start focusing on transitions but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
By Fbi3255 on 16/04/2011
QUOTE: DZ @ April 15, 2011 12:10 pm) |
In theory this sounds great and I've thought about it before too but there are a lot of flaws which have already been pointed out by others. We should also attempt to limit the use of fall ins and start focusing on transitions but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Das is Corecct
By Jayson on 16/04/2011
Eh. I prefer to call transitions or just march towards other clans, but if we are all over the place ill call a fall in
By rachellove9 on 17/04/2011
I don't care if we try this, but I want a green dot to click on in my small map to find the pile either way. If I get separated from the pile while under attack and get away ~ finding the pile is easier to just find one green dot.........
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