Don't feel like waiting

16 more days? Really?

This clan is deteriorating every day, yet you decide to set the day of purging/revitalization/renewal/destruction for a time so far away...

Our member list is currently at 42. In 3 days, it will be at 40, because Russel has posted his leaving topic and James has said that he plans to leave WG once he is unsuspended.

We are losing members at an incredible rate. Exactly a month ago (May 4th), we had 57 members. So, we're losing about one member every other day, with very little intros and applications coming in. At this rate, we can expect a memberlist of around 35 by the time June 20th rolls around.

As time goes on, we're having less and less to work with. I don't know the details of what you're planning Gene, but I'm willing to bet that the less members we have at the time you implement these changes, the less effective it will be.

I'm suggesting you speed up this process a little bit, as this wait is doing nothing but killing WG. Pretty much all motivation is lost. Nearly all PvP staff are gone or on their way out. As for myself, I'm demoralized to the point where I don't want to do anything to help WG, because I don't think it would be worth my time.

I tried hosting two events this past week. One I am going to reschedule because nobody was online during the event time, and the other one was a relative failure in my opinion. Only 6 other people showed up, and two of them weren't even WG members. I usually pull at least 8 people to my events.

I even got started on writing up a recruitment template, but I just couldn't continue on with it. I felt like I was writing lies about how great WG is, but at the moment we are just plain awful.

Finally, I'm not having fun anymore. Clans are supposed to be fun, and due to our recent shortcomings and lack of positive attitudes, I'm simply not having fun anymore. I'm not going to stay in this clan much longer if I don't start having fun. Why waste my summer in an inactive clan with members who are distraught and discouraged when I can go join a different clan that is currently doing well and have a blast with them?

In summary ....

All I can say is wow to way to be a downer. I come here to read all this. Yeah maybe Gene can speed things up but dam. Being in a clan and a leader has to mean that you fight to keep it going. You can't just give up.

I might be the only positive one left but it is not as bad as it was when Stevepants lead us to lose every single war and we had like in the 30 ml and we came up to above 70 and then holding it is tough.

All the whining about activity is not going to change it. We do need to have fun. We as council need to remember that we are members too. So socialize and be part of the clan.

I'm to tired now to tell you all I think about this but dang it anyway. Seriously, if I had to try to arrange wars to keep WG going, guess what I'd learn. It is all in what you want out of it.

I'm being a downer because I'm wanting and willing to share my thoughts on how things are going in WG at the moment? Yeah, I guess you're right. But I'm not the only one feeling this way.

We are in a much worse situation than when Stokenut was last in council (if that is what you are referring to).

I do socialize with the rest of the clan. I'm in IRC and TeamSpeak all the time, and I'm playing RuneScape a lot more as of late, too.

"It is all in what you want out of it"? Okay, so what am I supposed to do Rach? Should I put on a face to the rest of the clan, act as though I'm having fun while we slump, and try to get them to do the same? Well, I've tried that for the past month or so, to no avail. If you have any other ideas, feel free to share with me. But I don't see how myself becoming a warlord will solve WG problems or even improve things in the slightest.

But you know what, give me some credit, will ya? I'm not walking out the door like Randy did, and like Jayson is, not that I blame either of them for doing so.

My efforts can only go so far, and for what this clan needs at the moment, I don't think they can go far enough. Not without a catalyst. Which is another reason why I believe doing the June 20th stuff earlier would be a wise decision.

Tensions are high and frustrations rage. I'm not taking it out on you. I'm just saying that winning the wars is better than being on a complete losing streak for like 6 to 8 months. We had turning of the tides and came out of it. We will come out of this too.

I am a bit frustrated with Jayson. I asked him if he planned on leaving like yesterday or the day before and he said no. That leaves me with a great deal of frustration. If I ask you and you say one thing then do another I get a bit upset. I don't go run and tell all that you guys tell me in irc pm to anyone else.

I will wake up hopefully to a better mood and a more clear thought on this.

Well, I have given WG my all over the past 6 months especially. Skipping classes, waking in the middle of the night etc.

And now, the week of my first exams, and I am seeing how much doing all that has cost me.

How can I keep spending time focusing on a game when I have to deal with:

- Girlfriend.
- 2, soon to be 3, jobs to pay for car, university, general savings.
- Mum going back into hospital, meaning I'm pretty much babysitting my brother and sister while dad is at work.
- University studies. It's not easy at all. Now that I'm in my second year, I relise now before my exams that I can't breeze through like first year.
- Basketball season just starting, which means saturday mornings are going now.


It's just too much to handle, and it took the sudden relisation that I am very under prepared for my exams for me to relise that I can't keep up having WG as my #1 focus, especially considering with WG at the moment, it would require alot of work in my spare time, time I barely have to give let alone time I can spend away from studying or away from my girlfriend.


I did all I could while I could. Me and Randy got WG up higher than we have seen in a while for warring, and then we hit the bottom again.

We have to face the fact that WG will most likely never be a serious warring clan anymore, and the only thing we have that is decent is our core member group that are active, good at warring, and nice people to talk to.

Without being able to increase that core group, we are going to keep going up and down depending on how many people we can mass recruit for short stages.

I'm not blaming anyone at all. It is just frustrating cause I see all the effort that goes into the clan from some people. They give it there all and burn out.

Jayson, no way am I telling you to take a game/WG over your real life. I know that you have to do what you need to do. Same as anyone else. It was really late for me when I found out some of this stuff too.

Lost internets for a while.