Just a Thought.

I know I haven't been on RS in awhile nor this IRC. But, as soon as I came back, everyone was leaving? Or was postponed to leaving soon. And, as I read the reasons why they are leaving etc .. they ALL have a point.

I'm not here to start a flame war, or "troll", but it's the fact that WG isn't so strong as we can be. Yeah, we talk on TS3 about the "improvements" but, I don't see any. Don't get me wrong, we made changes, but not enough. I'm just saying, can we start making changes as a "family". It's starting to piss me off, and I don't want to leave WG for many reasons.

I think we need ONE more meeting soon, over TS3. AND LET EVERYONE FUCKING TALK. Don't interrupt them when they talk, please. It pisses me off.

Were losing our council, except for Kevin + Rachel. We only have 1 raidleader now, doing ALL the work, and 2 councils who are doing all the work. Yeah, Keanu does a lot of work too, thanks dude.

I think we should make another position in WG called, "Moderator". Almost same thing as council, but Moderator status is always focusing on forums, and sing ups. I'm giving ideas now so everyone can give ideas. Anytime I talk on TS3, I get cut off by Gene, and that's it. Tom (Army) helps me talk cause he HAS TO SAY, "Joe, talk go ahead.". Not my point. Anyway.. "Moderator" status is only about forum work. It might sound stupid, but 2 Moderators in WG would be helpful. Even on IRC. [JC] is always our back up IRC person, which is great, but 2 more wouldn't hurt. So, the "Moderator" position rank would be nice to improve the sign ups and to keep people alert. If it doesn't work out, take it away. But, I know it will.

Now, I don't want to make this any longer, but, I want WG to change the way "we" are. Not just one person, but everyone. We have to improve our sign ups on Wars / Raids / and EVENTS! I feel bad for our event leaders, they host good events and no one goes. You guys, Kat and Mark`` also Dallus, all do a great job for us to keep us going and motivated. Thank you for that. I love WG very much, and it sucks seeing us go down on our War attendance, and our Ranks on Tip.it or whatever we use. Were also splitting up. Or some of us.

Post your thoughts . . . . .

-Joey

I actually think bringing moderators back wouldn't be a bad idea. I used to be one and certainly wouldn't mind being one again - It's something even an inactive member can do provided he/she goes on the forums.

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The moderator idea sounds like a good idea.
That way Council can focus on recruitment and arranging fights/events when our Raid leader is away and our Event leaders are away.

Also, the Moderator rank could keep an eye on the IRC to make sure no flames go on between members or guests.
It would help Staff EXTREMELY.

I think we ditched it when we broke into sectors, I have no clue as to why we didn't bring it back though.

i like the idea of moderator, it makes couple less things the council/rl need to worry about making it easier/less stressful jobs. i would like another ts meeting also maybe even a post about wat was talked about during the meeting so ppl who can't make it know's what is going on.

on the warring side of things. i think wg should go back to basic pking/warring aka f2p. i love doing p2p wars but its alot more stressfull for everone espically those who do not know how to tank properly in p2p. for an example ill use myself, if im at a f2p fight i can tank all my invo and run circles in cwa/east tree to west tree on 30+ pulls but f2p 17 ppl could bang me out. our pulls are also to low (i think) to compete in p2p. where in f2p they is a bunch of new teams/clans that pull around wat we do.

event wise (other then wars) people need to attend those also. y should mark/kat/dalla work they ass of to make these events and no one shows. i personally try to make every event other then arma gwd cuz ive been banged out in there way to many times. of course work/rl stuff comes before, but most ppl can spend a half hr/an hr a day to help the clan out.

Sounds like a decent idea. It should be hand picked by Council, like say Rachel or something. Even Emeritus could do it since it doesn't require RS activity. Thinking of people like maybe JC.

I can think of a few others as well vephy none Emeritus who might be a good idea as well.

I'm all for it, if what people are saying is right, and this used to be an official position, then why did it stop?

I loved being a moderator !

well i wudnt mind having another moderator to help and all. it might help the council sense their stressing so much but im pretty sure thats like the staff position. Me, mark, and dallar all make events and hardly anyone comes. i dont see how were motivating the clan members when everyones to lazy to come to an event. i would love another ts3 meeting if the council is up for it. but im pretty sure we wont need one sense gene is set on june 20th. which will be a BIG change.

Everyone loves the idea of the Moderator, I just gotta get to Rachel and let her know the feed backs.

Thanks guys!

-Joey

I'll think on a moderator. With all the negative that came from Keanu being Historian, I would really have to be convinced. I'm not at the moment. I do appreciate some of the members that have been helping out around the forum.

I agree though that we have many good members and emeritus that could be considered. JC is already an IRC moderator for us.

I'll host another TS Meeting. I think this could be discussed then. Overall in my experience when we have to many staff one does most of the work and the rest end up going inactive. When you rely on a smaller amount of staff they work hard for the clan. The benefit is that they take pride in doing a great job for the clan.

I wouldn't mind seeing more people like JC coming in. Hell, I'd even be offering myself to it. This sounds like a good idea, yes.

On the event hand, you are also right - All the ELs are working their ass off and still no one comes to their events (sorry Kevin for the Ultimate Runescapez thing, I had a problem then and wasn't able to get on TS).

I wanted to apply for EL twice, and seems to me that THANK GOD I didn't get it - I'd be long gone by now because of the stress.

Thanks for having the motivation to post this Joey. We needed this.

Just making this a stand-out point of view of mine:

People need to work harder to see other people's hard work. Just that.

not about working harder, its about having confidence in doing what you love.

I think moderators would be great.

There are so many people in this clan that can be extremely active on the forums, but not active at all in game.

Love the idea.
I wouldn't mind helping out.

Please don't call it moderator. Sounds so boring and non-exclusive..

Go for Community Leader/Manager/Coordinator or something..

For this wouldn't we need people who are active on IRC and Forums?
And by that, I mean, online EVERY day?

It seems unnecessary to me to create a rank that is solely for the purpose of moderation. Every staff member is already a moderator, even if their primary focus is not moderation. Regardless, I find the combined moderation efforts we have from all staff to be more than sufficient.

Do any of you have any specific reasons on why having moderators is necessary? So far I have only seen two, updating war sign ups and IRC moderation, and I don't really see the need for an additional IRC mod, as we always have an active rank in the channel.

I agree with Kevin.
I don't really see the benefits, except including more people in the day to day running of the clan... (forums-wise)...

Moderation doesn't take long... if anything it's the one part of the schedule of a council member that doesn't require too much effort and time.

This is the smartest thing ive ever seen you say. We absolutely need this especially for in irc. think Kev is wrong on this one theres plenty of times where theres 5 ranks in irc and all of them are idle and we have some spastic mass Hling the channel

Plenty of times, really? It happens once and all of the sudden it happens "plenty of times"?

Keanu will have half op soon and that gives us an additional irc moderator. I believe with Randy leaving and Jayson stepping down or leaving, this will mean we will at least be looking for a Raid Leader as well. That should replace the needed moderators for us. As the clan member list grows this may be more needed but at the moment I don't think it will be put in place.


Come to June 11, TS Clan Meeting, we can better discuss the pros and cons then.