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Pest Control Clans

By Yingyang06 on 16/06/2008
As many people may know, Many members of the Wilderness Guardians are members within other clans such as GWD Clans, PC Clans and Clans Wars Clans.

It has come to my attention that many of these members join the PC clans just in order to leak the world to many of their lower level friends, as you may know this is against PC Clan rules and should NOT be done. Today (16th June, 2008) PCE (Pest Control Elites) and their allies where currently using a world when a Wilderness Guardian member who shall remain nameless logged into the world and began to act in a very disrespectful manner, many of WG's members are also members of PCE and would not like to be incriminated everytime a member of the same Runescape clan joins the same world and game then begins to disrespect them.

The nameless person has acted in a very disrespectful manner and also telling them that he is in the world and leaking to himself and will not give up his source. This is not wanted as many members of WG use PC to train combat and do not want complications everytime they go. This has an effect on us all and after this evening i expect that PCE have lost a little bit of respect because of this members actions.

Myself and a friend (lvl 126) have been Pest Controlling most of the day and when the nameless member began to do what he did incriminated me and this other player as we both have contacts in WG.

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[01:57:16] <Azura> well I don't know if he is leaking himself actually, but he is getting them from a leaker
[01:57:24] <Yingyang06> I have already spoke to him and he says that it's ok because i am not one of his sorces.
[01:57:52] <Azura> well tbh I'd see if i could get it out of him, i couldn't accept him if i wanted to anyway
[01:57:55] <Yingyang06> unfortunatly i dont know the leaker because i don't wanna damage my chances in PCE
[01:58:18] <Yingyang06> I understand that, i just hope that me knowing him  doesnt incriminate me in the long run
[01:58:29] <Azura> no, i think we know you better than that =)


I am sorry that these shocking words have passed onto these forums, but i remind all members of WG who are in a clan such as Retribution and Pest Control Elites DO NOT break the rules and leak the worlds to other people.

~Yingyang06~

By Elyxiatic on 16/06/2008
I'm in retribution.
I only joined to get void lol.
But yeah, like they were good enough to set up their whole pc worlds/clans + such.
I'd hate for ppl to be leaking the world.

Please don't.

By Sithofwookie on 16/06/2008
This is a good post even though im not in a pc clan it just ruins it for others when u break the rules

By Randy on 16/06/2008
I can't really see how it would make a difference.
Plus, training for your clan is good.

The disrespectful part.. not so much sad.gif

By Winddancir on 16/06/2008
If the person was there to do PC, and not disrupt... That's one thing. I'll occasionally want to PC, yet I'm too low to join any PC group still. I'll bug a friend or 2 for a good pc world, then stay by the knight the whole time. I don't want to interfere with how they do things. I don't want to disrespect them doing something very nice for me.

Have some courtesy. Go to have fun, not to mess around and insult people. If a friend was nice enough to tell you.... Don't mess them over. This is part of the whole Wilderness Guardians Honor Clan thing.

By Kiwi011 on 16/06/2008
meh if im pcing I WILL LEAK if someone asks. I don't care really. If a member in my clan needs a world I will give it to him if I am there. I was given worlds before I was lvl 100 so i could train. I will leak them now. Anything I can do to help a member of wg I will do.

sorry =/

By Tnuac on 16/06/2008
Letting low levels / pures in not only spoils it for them, it makes it worse for you too. Especially if they don't even try to kill the portals.

That person better buck up.

Letting the odd level 90 into a 100+ world isn't too bad, as long as they cooperate and they then don't leak it. Ideally though, the world should be pure.

I remember those days when eckzr did it, he had 25 level 120's and no low-levels. That would've been paradise.



By Troll84 on 16/06/2008
This morning (early, while i was asleep, i've scrolled up to read) in the alliance channel the PC Alliance was issued a warning about WG members. We were warned that WG could possibly be a 'leak clan' (leak clans usually end up being blacklisted from the alliance) and to be cautious when dealing with them.

Since this morning, i've been calming things down in the alliance in regards to us, ensuring this isn't a leak clan, so all those members of WG in any of the alliance teams should now be safe.

It's worth mentioning as we're on this topic that you must really never beg a friend in WG for the Pest Control world. Doing this not only ends up getting the person in question blacklisted from all alliance teams, but now that we're in this situation could cause the entire clan being blacklisted from all teams :\ (Wonder if they'd even kick me happy.gif)

Like Madd says, if you're in both WG and Retribution/PCE then if you're in Retribution I advise re-reading the rules found here.

~Mugger84

By Mistah Vince on 16/06/2008
What's a Pest Control?


DO SLAYER, NOOBS.

By Trivium236 on 16/06/2008
well this is the first ive heard of this, just remember, if you want the world, just pm any of us retri staff on irc or on here hash.png

whats the point of getting people to leak to you when you have us staff members in your clan that can sign you up tongue.gif

By Zlatan83 on 16/06/2008
Pc Products

By JC on 16/06/2008
I spent quite some time talking to one of the leader's of PCE today to sort this all out.

Guys, I dont do PC so this doesnt really worry me either way, but do not forget if you walk around doing stupid stuff people don't just go "look at that stupid noob" they go "Look at that stupid WG noob". It reflects bedly not only on you, but also on WG.

As mugger has shown above giving the world out to your mates can have wide implications upon everyone in WG.

By Jaxx456 on 16/06/2008
sounds like something job would do

By Yingyang06 on 16/06/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ June 16, 2008 06:56 am)
meh if im pcing I WILL LEAK if someone asks. I don't care really. If a member in my clan needs a world I will give it to him if I am there. I was given worlds before I was lvl 100 so i could train. I will leak them now. Anything I can do to help a member of wg I will do.

sorry =/

Think about what Mugger said, If a member of WG leaks the PC world, it will have an affect on the other members of the same PC clans as that member. Aardvark is right, If someone is caught leaking to a RS clan the clan the leaker is in becomes blacklisted or that member becomes black listed which damages the chances of more members joining the PC Clan.

In the long run, Actions from one member can affect us all whether its WG's members being blacklisted or the whole clan black listed. The nameless person almost cost WG to be black listed as i have already said.

Please DO NOT leak the worlds to anyone. It is against the rules. PCE have already lost abit of respect for WG because of this members actions, Don't add to it. Even if your in a different PC Clan such as Retri - Don't cost WG its respect by leaking or breaking the rules.

By Kiwi011 on 17/06/2008
QUOTE (Yingyang06 @ June 16, 2008 02:33 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ June 16, 2008 06:56 am)
meh if im pcing I WILL LEAK if someone asks. I don't care really. If a member in my clan needs a world I will give it to him if I am there. I was given worlds before I was lvl 100 so i could train. I will leak them now. Anything I can do to help a member of wg I will do.

sorry =/

Think about what Mugger said, If a member of WG leaks the PC world, it will have an affect on the other members of the same PC clans as that member. Aardvark is right, If someone is caught leaking to a RS clan the clan the leaker is in becomes blacklisted or that member becomes black listed which damages the chances of more members joining the PC Clan.

In the long run, Actions from one member can affect us all whether its WG's members being blacklisted or the whole clan black listed. The nameless person almost cost WG to be black listed as i have already said.

Please DO NOT leak the worlds to anyone. It is against the rules. PCE have already lost abit of respect for WG because of this members actions, Don't add to it. Even if your in a different PC Clan such as Retri - Don't cost WG its respect by leaking or breaking the rules.

I only give them to wg i am friends with, like, or think will do good. I don't give them to rude asshole mems that would do that soz yea =/

By Troll84 on 17/06/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ June 16, 2008 07:56 am)
meh if im pcing I WILL LEAK if someone asks. I don't care really. If a member in my clan needs a world I will give it to him if I am there. I was given worlds before I was lvl 100 so i could train. I will leak them now. Anything I can do to help a member of wg I will do.

sorry =/

If my words mean anything... i'd strongly advise against it tongue.gif If caught by any staff member of any of the alliance clans (eight of them (each with AT LEAST 15 staff members)) then you'd be flagged in the alliance channel. From further investigation when found to be in WG, as WG as a whole have already been flagged, it wouldnt only result in EVERYONE in WG who is also in one of the eight pc clans (RETRI - BH - HU - LTPC - PCE - PCN - SF - SP) being let down (kicked out) and there would be nothing I could do to stop it :\

Before leaking guys, always think of WG as a whole. There are people who genuinely wish to PC nicely, and by leaking you could Jeapordise that for them.

~Mugger84

By Tmal34 on 17/06/2008
Ah I remember the days when I had to Pc rofl
It's not like the worlds are a sacred place anyways. They are free for anyone to come or go.

I'm not saying leaking is right...but I think it's wrong for clans to "claim" a world, and get pissed if people tell others when the clan had no right to claim it in the first place.

By Kiwi011 on 17/06/2008
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ June 17, 2008 06:30 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ June 16, 2008 07:56 am)
meh if im pcing I WILL LEAK if someone asks. I don't care really. If a member in my clan needs a world I will give it to him if I am there. I was given worlds before I was lvl 100 so i could train. I will leak them now. Anything I can do to help a member of wg I will do.

sorry =/

If my words mean anything... i'd strongly advise against it tongue.gif If caught by any staff member of any of the alliance clans (eight of them (each with AT LEAST 15 staff members)) then you'd be flagged in the alliance channel. From further investigation when found to be in WG, as WG as a whole have already been flagged, it wouldnt only result in EVERYONE in WG who is also in one of the eight pc clans (RETRI - BH - HU - LTPC - PCE - PCN - SF - SP) being let down (kicked out) and there would be nothing I could do to stop it :\

Before leaking guys, always think of WG as a whole. There are people who genuinely wish to PC nicely, and by leaking you could Jeapordise that for them.

~Mugger84

1st- How can u get caught for leaking?
2nd- Does it matter if you leak since the portal is 100+ now? Not really
3rd- How does leaking hurt a pc clan when it brings in more people.(you have a fhking 7 clan alliance ffs)
4th- How am I hurting wg if I give the pcw to wg(why else would I give some1 a pcw).

P.S- If I ever get caught I will take the full blame and make up some excuse to make sure no1 else gets fhked with.

Nothing has changed from what it was, if u leak you get kicked. I was leaked to to get my cmb and att lvl 99. If I am at pc, and a trustworthy member of wg asks me for the world i will give it to them or tell them to add me and follow the worlds I go to.

By Crucio01 on 17/06/2008
Yes guys, kiwi has a point. Btw ying, the problem is solved. Alani Deshay is pleased (i hope =])

By Zlatan83 on 17/06/2008
I miss the days were people leaked Zps or whatever they were called and I continued on leak the worlds to all my friends lol, and nobody would caught me.

By Yingyang06 on 17/06/2008
Leaking is against PC Clan rules because it spoils the game, With people 109+ f2p combat the game goes faster and everyone pitches in, some of the low levels who achieve 100 through summoning get their zeal and don't bother helping out. This causes game losses, which upsets everyone.

By Crucio01 on 18/06/2008
You and the pc clan's are judging by their cmb. i see lvl 120s who dont bother closing doors and only be there to get the zeal then afk.

By Mangomaniac2 on 18/06/2008
Just wanna say, whoever that "nameless" person is, I hope he reads this and understands what he/she did wrong. Ying is saving whomever it is a lot of trouble by not naming his/her name.

By Troll84 on 18/06/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ June 18, 2008 12:15 am)
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ June 17, 2008 06:30 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ June 16, 2008 07:56 am)
meh if im pcing I WILL LEAK if someone asks. I don't care really. If a member in my clan needs a world I will give it to him if I am there. I was given worlds before I was lvl 100 so i could train. I will leak them now. Anything I can do to help a member of wg I will do.

sorry =/

If my words mean anything... i'd strongly advise against it tongue.gif If caught by any staff member of any of the alliance clans (eight of them (each with AT LEAST 15 staff members)) then you'd be flagged in the alliance channel. From further investigation when found to be in WG, as WG as a whole have already been flagged, it wouldnt only result in EVERYONE in WG who is also in one of the eight pc clans (RETRI - BH - HU - LTPC - PCE - PCN - SF - SP) being let down (kicked out) and there would be nothing I could do to stop it :\

Before leaking guys, always think of WG as a whole. There are people who genuinely wish to PC nicely, and by leaking you could Jeapordise that for them.

~Mugger84

1st- How can u get caught for leaking?
2nd- Does it matter if you leak since the portal is 100+ now? Not really
3rd- How does leaking hurt a pc clan when it brings in more people.(you have a fhking 7 clan alliance ffs)
4th- How am I hurting wg if I give the pcw to wg(why else would I give some1 a pcw).

P.S- If I ever get caught I will take the full blame and make up some excuse to make sure no1 else gets fhked with.

Nothing has changed from what it was, if u leak you get kicked. I was leaked to to get my cmb and att lvl 99. If I am at pc, and a trustworthy member of wg asks me for the world i will give it to them or tell them to add me and follow the worlds I go to.

1- In Retribution, to track leaking, our bot has special scripts built in to track probability that one person in particular is leaking in our clan (from how often a specific noob is spotted on our worlds). Also, we /whois the nick and find their IP and nicktrack it, and find their mains clan, and it continues from there. We have many other ways, but if i told you them they'd be easily avoidable.

2- Yes it does, 110+ worlds and 100+ worlds can appear VERY different in quality. We've experimented with lowering the requirements before.

3- It brings in <110s so that the world quality decreases rapidly (thus the need for us to hop worlds every now and then, the 100-110 decrease the world quality to such an extent that the world loses its 100% win rate).

4- By leaking the PCW while in WG, as WG have already been flagged as a possible leaking clan (despite my efforts :\), it would mean that their suspicions are answered and that members of WG do indeed leak. When dealing with clans, the simplest thing is to blacklist the whole clan, and i really really dont want this to happen in WG's case <3 Please dont leak.

QUOTE
P.S- If I ever get caught I will take the full blame and make up some excuse to make sure no1 else gets fhked with.


Makes no difference. As i said above, the simplest and safest way to deal with leaks in clans is to blacklist the whole clan.

By Troll84 on 18/06/2008
QUOTE (Crucio01 @ June 18, 2008 01:17 am)
You and the pc clan's are judging by their cmb. i see lvl 120s who dont bother closing doors and only be there to get the zeal then afk.

http://snog-ftp.net-freaks.com:81/retribut...ules&showrule=2

^ Check there, we can enforce these rules with our members, but not <109.

By Elyxiatic on 18/06/2008
Don't leak, I don't care if its wg or not.
110+ means 110+.
If you don't meet the requirements then train on something else for a while.

I have to fully agree with mugger here.

A pc boat takes 25 ppl.
Now in those 25, if you start to leak, we could have up to 5 <110 cmb.
Now replace those <110 cmb with 110+ cmb people. And at this point I'm not talking about lvl 109 and lvl 110. The difference isn't much. I'm talking about swapping 5 lvl 105's with 5 lvl 117's etc.
The lvl 117's hit better and can tend to afford the higher hitting weapons to go with it.

Seriously don't leak.
I need my full void still!
I have the void top to go...

If you leak and those pc clans find out wg is leaking, why wouldn't they just ban all of us?
In effect, you're not helping wg when wg gets listed as a leaker clan.
This means in the future they might not accept wg members into such pc clans.


By Crucio01 on 18/06/2008
Just to be clear, there is no "leaking" issue, just let it go. Its solved. Wg will not be blacklisted from alliance.

By Yingyang06 on 18/06/2008
QUOTE (Crucio01 @ June 18, 2008 04:07 pm)
Just to be clear, there is no "leaking" issue, just let it go. Its solved. Wg will not be blacklisted from alliance.

This is a Warning to ALL WG members who are in PC Clans.

By Boogers102 on 19/06/2008
A damn shame someone would go and do something like that.

By Dorcha3377 on 20/06/2008
Crucio..this was a warning to WG who might in the future leak this information.

I will never forget how mad I got when someone used Dorcha3377 to join a PC channel to get the worlds on irc, I honestly blew a fuse.

Rules are there for a reason, its not fair to the people who do the right thing.
It is not fair to WG for us all to be labeled as cheaters when it is only a couple who do this.
If you want to do this and be an ass then leave WG, this is tantamount to
NO HONOUR in my opinion.
WG is held to a higher standard, that is what this clan was based on.
Live up the ideals we were founded on or leave, its that simple in my opinion.

Honestly whoever did this deserves a warning.

By David on 20/06/2008
I have no real stance on this really, I don't do PC because it's waaaaaaay to boring for me. I'd rather kill stuff that drops charms or something.

I'd hate for the world to be leaked, but honestly, I'd probably tell my best friend because...he's my best friend.

Lucky for you I don' do PC biggrin.gif.

By Gusmighster on 23/06/2008
Just don't do it guys. It doesn't help you at all. I only joined Retri yesterday and don't wanna be kicked so soon L

By Yingyang06 on 05/07/2008
Can this topic be pinned? I know it's old but it's a MUST remember.

By Spiltbark31 on 05/07/2008
Ya ive had this problem aswell ppl are asking for pcw in chat and i dont give it to them so they spazz lol?

By Yingyang06 on 06/07/2008
QUOTE (Spiltbark31 @ July 05, 2008 11:52 pm)
Ya ive had this problem aswell ppl are asking for pcw in chat and i dont give it to them so they spazz lol?

Yea, You will find that. If your in a PC Clan then you direct them to the PC site. Unfortunatly most clans are 109+ free to play combat. WG have plenty of members and/or management from PC Clans as Mugger, Aardvark and myself are in.



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