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By General199 on 23/06/2008
Just a thought but as you know our memberlist has seen a lot of growth and in turn maybe we should think about raising our requirements. Now that we have an excellent base of members in this clan we should start going for the more quality members. I think that we should go up to 105 f2p combat atleast.Tell me what you guys think.
LTPKtEAM - 107+ Combat to join.
RE - 106+ for Fa and 110+ for full member.
MOD - 100+ combat.
Wg - 100+ Combat
TMC - I cant understand there forums at all .....
Mori - Couldnt find them.
Exer - 100+ combat for fa
We obviously see the upper tier clans of our group. Obviously we seen how successful they are. Now look at their requirements. 7 Combat levels higher then us and also 10 combat levels higher then us. I see it fit that we raise our requirements. The people who are not at the new requirements can stay in the clan. But it is highly advised they train.
By Back to Own on 24/06/2008
Why do we even have a p2p cmb option?
Its way too easy to get in WG these days
By Winddancir on 24/06/2008
What about the ones that are under the current limit, and the ones under what you are suggesting? I'm already training, and really getting burned out on constantly doing it. Yes, I'm doing it through slayer, so at least I get some skilling out of it, and the charms for summoning. No offense to those going hardcore training summon.... But I don't want to be no lifing something like what they are doing. At least I have variety.
Having a p2p cmb lvl requirement is probably unnecessary.
By General199 on 24/06/2008
Well we don't need the p2p option, but I think that we should keep all the people that would be under the new requirements. A lot of the people that would fall under the new requirements are keys to our success. Like you tabs. You would fall under that requirement but you are a key to the success we have in Wg.
By Anatcrafter on 24/06/2008
I don't really think we need to raise requirements until we start maxing out the clan chat at full outs. The majority of members make an active effort to train combat at the moment with Pro Silentium so we're constantly improving anyway.
By General199 on 24/06/2008
Yes but if we do not raise the requirements we are going to continue to get that influx of lower levels. Which in turn will keep us at that point where we are waiting for them to join. But if the requirements are a bit higher well then we do not need to worry about the person that joins to train because we can already see that they are efforting to train upwards.
By Zlatan83 on 24/06/2008
The p2p requirement is dumb, I mean a level 90 can join with 70 Summon or something , and what can he benefit us in f2p wars?
But I dont really like raising it to 105 - prehaps encourage people below 105 to train and prehaps throw in some prices.
By General199 on 24/06/2008
Zlat that will do nothing. It still leaves it open for even more 100's to join. Maybe we can just drop the p2p requirement. I just think that now we are moving upwards, we need to start moving our requirements upwards so that we can draw in the better clan members and fighters.
By Troll84 on 24/06/2008
Until we have too many members to handle, i don't think raising the requirements is a good idea. I've never been a good fan of doing things for the sake of doing them. At the moment, a level 98 F2P can apply to join with 99 Summoning. I think that's fair enough tbh, as it's close to the 100 F2P anyway...
Until we start having too many to accomodate at Full outs (i.e. 100+ turnouts on a regular basis) then i don't think we should even consider a requirement raise.
~Mugger84
By George on 24/06/2008
I personally think our bigger concern should be concentratingh on war technique and finding a way to teach new members HOW TO TANK AND HOW TO WAR.
A lot of new members die immediately when piled because they simply don't know what to do and are too embarassed to ask.
By General199 on 26/06/2008
| QUOTE (Mugger84 @ June 24, 2008 11:10 am) |
Until we have too many members to handle, i don't think raising the requirements is a good idea. I've never been a good fan of doing things for the sake of doing them. At the moment, a level 98 F2P can apply to join with 99 Summoning. I think that's fair enough tbh, as it's close to the 100 F2P anyway...
Until we start having too many to accomodate at Full outs (i.e. 100+ turnouts on a regular basis) then i don't think we should even consider a requirement raise.
~Mugger84 |
Do you expect us to have over 200 members just so we can pull that many people to a war? Haha. I have no problem with that many people because if then we pull 100 persons to clan wars then I have absolutely no problem with it. Hopefully sooner of later run ins will come out and us having over 100 people at the run in will do tremenously great for us.
~General199
By Back to Own on 26/06/2008
| QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ June 24, 2008 12:30 pm) |
I personally think our bigger concern should be concentratingh on war technique and finding a way to teach new members HOW TO TANK AND HOW TO WAR.
A lot of new members die immediately when piled because they simply don't know what to do and are too embarassed to ask. |
Definitely a yes, but our application process is REALLY easy. We should start raising the standards
Im working on a couple ideas for a type of training program that tests members on warring skills
By JC on 26/06/2008
| QUOTE (Back to Own @ June 26, 2008 01:56 pm) |
| QUOTE (Gorgemaster @ June 24, 2008 12:30 pm) | I personally think our bigger concern should be concentratingh on war technique and finding a way to teach new members HOW TO TANK AND HOW TO WAR.
A lot of new members die immediately when piled because they simply don't know what to do and are too embarassed to ask. |
Definitely a yes, but our application process is REALLY easy. We should start raising the standards
Im working on a couple ideas for a type of training program that tests members on warring skills
|
I am working on an updated application and trial system, I would be very keen to hear what you would propose in regard to tests on Tanking/warring skills.
My main concern is most people do not recognise that they are shit at warring, they have to be told they aren't very good before they will do anything about it. With the amount of Intro's/applications we get it would be probably too much to ask that every member get tested, perhaps if we were to do a 'test' it would be a good idea to have it at the graduation stage rather than Application?
The other issue is how do we have a test that is fair and covers all members? I mean its fine having a person have to tank X amount of members, but how will we be certain that we will have the same balence of high/mid/lower level'd members each time to make the difficulty the same?
Also what level of tanking do we want everyone to achieve? we could maike it everyone has to tank 10 people for 5 mins, but lower leveld members are not going to be able to do it, so we will restrict people being able to graduate.
~Evil
By General199 on 28/06/2008
We need to raise requirements. If we want to be succesful we can not have 100+ f2p combat requirements.
LTPKtEAM - 107+ Combat to join.
RE - 106+ for Fa and 110+ for full member.
MOD - 100+ combat.
Wg - 100+ Combat
TMC - I cant understand there forums at all .....
Mori - Couldnt find them.
Exer - 100+ combat for fa
We obviously see the upper tier clans of our group. Obviously we seen how successful they are. Now look at their requirements. 7 Combat levels higher then us and also 10 combat levels higher then us. I see it fit that we raise our requirements. The people who are not at the new requirements can stay in the clan. But it is highly advised they train.
By Buzzard1985 on 29/06/2008
I somewhat agree, partly because the higher you get into F2P combat the more clan experience you have. I however don't think that 5 F2P levels should be raised like that.
If the requirements do get raised, I'd say about level 103 and we don't have the P2P requirement (We hardly do P2P enough to have one) and I think that this might help us get some new members that have some clan experience and we can train them from there. People that are under the reqs if they are changed wouldn't be forced to train only encouraged.
Last time we changed our requirements (I can't remember what actually happened) but we changed them back again with in a couple of months..
By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 29/06/2008
In addition to levels, I want our members to already know how to follow a pile, hybrid, tank, listen on TS, and execute all war tactics. (except for maybe snipe and antisnipe) They should be IRC active. Most importantly, we need to do background checks on them. (aka googling their name and checking UN blacklist- which I don't believe we do) A level requirement would be good. I'd say 75+ Defense and 105 f2p combat?
By General199 on 29/06/2008
A lot of the people we have coming in here have little war experience like you guys said. But Buzz 103 combat is not enough. We need atleast 105. With our size 100 combat people do not cut it anymore. That is just to low.
By Gusmighster on 30/06/2008
I'm not going to lecture about why I think we should have this, but I think our requirements should be;
105+ combat for trial guardian
107+ combat for full guardian
80+ Defence
No one ALREADY in the clan would be AT ALL pressured to obtain these as I know people like Tabs, Mr Death and others have been trying very hard to obtain 100 combat. I feel it unfair to force them into training.
By General199 on 30/06/2008
Gus that is a good idea. I like the 105+ for trial and 107+ for full member. Then when a lvl 105 joins as a trial we will see if they really train or not.
By Back to Own on 30/06/2008
I've been thinking about a training program for WG for hybrids and ppl getting koed. Maybe if we can create this program, we can make it mandatory for all trials to attend at least _______ practices before they become a full member to ensure they're prepared.
By General199 on 01/07/2008
I don't think that does much BTO. How many people will actually show up to those.
We just need to raise our requirements and that will start bringing in people that have already been in clans and know what they are doing.
By Winddancir on 01/07/2008
| QUOTE (Gusmighster @ June 30, 2008 06:30 am) |
| No one ALREADY in the clan would be AT ALL pressured to obtain these as I know people like Tabs, Mr Death and others have been trying very hard to obtain 100 combat. I feel it unfair to force them into training. |
What you don't realize, is that even though nobody actually forces me to train, I feel like shit because I'm not up to requirements. Because I am a tertiary, I have to get to the minimum standards... Yet I hate training combat constantly. What fun for me, eh? RS is fun, except when I have to constantly do combat... Yet if I don't constantly train, I feel bad.
And it's not any one doing this, it's just my own honor about it...
Those others had better be training anyways >.> Or I'm gonna get pissed about it soon enough.
By General199 on 01/07/2008
Tabs you know you train combat at your pace and I hope you do know that. No one should force you and I know I definitely wont. Training is something that you want to do and when you want to. Shouldnt have people constantly pushing you because then its no fun.
By Back to Own on 04/07/2008
| QUOTE (General199 @ July 01, 2008 01:55 am) |
I don't think that does much BTO. How many people will actually show up to those.
We just need to raise our requirements and that will start bringing in people that have already been in clans and know what they are doing. |
We make it mandatory to attend __________ practices/ month or something
By General199 on 04/07/2008
| QUOTE (Back to Own @ July 04, 2008 02:28 pm) |
| QUOTE (General199 @ July 01, 2008 01:55 am) | I don't think that does much BTO. How many people will actually show up to those.
We just need to raise our requirements and that will start bringing in people that have already been in clans and know what they are doing. |
We make it mandatory to attend __________ practices/ month or something
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Its tough to do mandatory number of events to be at when certain people go inactive and what not. I just think that we should be able to rely on if we bring in higher leveled people they will know what to do in a war.
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