abusing powers

rob jsut banned rick without any reason.

[8:44p] [Rick_Hamm] (14:04:40) <Rick_Hamm> Hey Rob...any reason in particular that Stoke was banned?(14:05:05) <Robertw56> He's an ******* in a nutshell(14:05:29) <Rick_Hamm> Would that ******* word be a butthole by any chance?(14:05:51) <Robertw56> Close (14:06:14) <Rick_Hamm> Well, that's not really fair, is it Rob? I mean, so the guy left...don't mean he's a bad person, does it?(14:06:47) <Robertw56> He quit council, and didn't give us 2 weeks(14

^^is that worth a ban?


oh btw Rob, if you say that it's not the whole convo then let's see what you got? if nothing...then all you can do is unban him. You can't do it without a proof.

Log started: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:06:35 GMT Standard Time
<Rick_Hamm> Hey Rob...any reason in particular that Stoke was banned?
<Robertw56> He's an asshole in a nutshell
<Rick_Hamm> Would that ******* word be a butthole by any chance?
<Robertw56> Close
<Rick_Hamm> Well, that's not really fair, is it Rob? I mean, so the guy left...don't mean he's a bad person, does it?
<Robertw56> He quit council, and didn't give us 2 weeks
<Robertw56> And from then on, he's been bashing Wg
<Rick_Hamm> Okay, but is it REALLY harming to not give 2 weeks for Council person? Hardly anyone does it.
<Rick_Hamm> I mean, when you were in DF you were always saying how WG sucked and was too small a clan and now you're an op for WG. That's all I'm saying bro.
<Robertw56> Ok, why do you come out of no where every couple months, then start lecturing people?
<Rick_Hamm> Because I can.
<Rick_Hamm> Don't cop your attitude with me. I'm merely asking questions.
<Robertw56> Lol and what gives you the rights to ask questions?
<Rick_Hamm> I can do whatever I feel is necessary to diffuse a potential bad situation.
<Robertw56> Lol it's not your place to sort things out
<Rick_Hamm> Nor is it yours
<Robertw56> From what i remember, you've been kicked from Wg numerous times
<Rick_Hamm> That's neither here nor there.
<Rick_Hamm> From what you remember? It's quite obvious you don't know half of what you think.
<Robertw56> How about you be quiet while your ahead mate.
<Rick_Hamm> How about you make me

Rest of log I couldn't find.

The rest of it was questioning my abilities as a council member etc.

this is why you banned him? you have to be kidding me....he was actually beeing really nice and you ban him for that, nice going buddy.

I just wanted to discuss this in here because I think that was kinda a silly thing to do. I have had my ability questioned by several members both as council and/or Tertiary leader, and yes allot of the time I felt like banning them.

The Zhero06 issue was one of the hardest weeks of council yet for me, when I had a mixture of members and Tertiary leaders questioning my ability. Did I ban them? No, I realised that even though they weren't nessacarily correct they werer entitled to their own oppinion and as a result I just ignored any flaming.

Bambaleo was one of the worst of these flamers at the time, yet these days he is always good to have a talk to.

I don't think Rick should be banned, last I looked questioning ability to lead was not bannable, I normally have at least one person doing that each week, its part and parcel of what comes with council.

~Evil

In fact Evil, it was I who questioned you first and the hardest about Zhero I believe, and I for one and glad you didn't ban me

Rick shouldn't be banned.
He has been missing for a year, let him lurk until he actually starts breaking rules again.

I have unbanned Rick and returned him Ex-member.

This has been in here for a day, and I know every council member has viewed forums in that time so there was an oppurtunity for you to have your say.