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By Wonderboy478 on 08/02/2008
well im gone. ive been thinking about it for a while now but today cemented it, i was going to wait, try and help improve the clan but it shows tht no1 listens to me so i dont care anymore

alot of you know me as the asshole that i am, and frankly i dont give a **** about being nice and friendly, those dont win wars.

for the entire what 5 months? ive been here the wilderness guardians has made bad turns and not to many right ones. and have rarely won anything more than a handshake

this clan used to be something i aspired but no its nothing more than a bunch of inactives, WoW players and retards oh and lordy coz hes cool

i turn up to the 1hr prep, fight that and lose to 40 people, stoke, we arnt fucking top 10 **** believe it or not. and then as i leave 2 calm down i get flooded by retards asking "why you leave" "dont leave" "come back" "we rematch" and some people think "so much for loyalty to the clan" HOW ABOUT YOU **** MY **** i turn up, i do my thing so SHUT THE **** UP

after getting the **** flooded out of me i decide that i might aswel give it one more shot, stoke says he waits and i kit up as fast as a can, to find, YOU ******* WENT WITHOUT ME so he can go hump a preg monkey for all i care

add to that that last nights bh trip 5 people turn up and some how its a good itea to go 2 world 17 where (a) i get 5 sec lag and (cool.gif big as teams/clans. and then i get kicked out for not wanting lag or some **** like that. if you havnt got ts you cnt lead, thats my opinion other people may have their own but i dont care about yours coz mine is the only one that i care about

and why is it when anyone ever asks what clan we're in everyone says "book club" "di" "rot" are you aware that your advertising other clans and it shows to me that you are ashamed to be a wg.

and then add to that happening in a 24hr period. combine it with stokes activity sweep **** ups with the skills sector HOW ABOUT SOME EVENTS?

now right now im writing this in a massive rage and if i had a gun id probably go shoot up my street so ill prob get on in a few days and be all calm and **** but right now im not

now also this will probably get deleted coz theres some pussys in this clan who cant handle seeing me pissed off, well heres a message 2 you, YOU ARE A ***

i dont care for community or ex member or anything, for the 1st time i feel ashamed about calling myself a wg so no longer


to the people i like well ill have you added so yeh, if i hate you your on my ignore simple as that

gf wg

By Randy on 08/02/2008
Relax dude.

By Dalejamesw on 08/02/2008
Cyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Abandon Ship

cussing.gif - Your post

By Elyxiatic on 08/02/2008
In a rant, you have just posted what we are scared to face.
I believe most of that rant tbh.
I am also quite angry that things haven't improved in the last 3/4 months, when ppl say "Oh no, stay around, they'll improve".

They haven't.
We need to face this.

I am totally on your side in this argument.


By Kiwi011 on 08/02/2008
take a chill pill, grow up and leave....i don't even care, i don't like your attitude. Grow some balls, your expectations are to be top10 tbh.....

if you dont like something change it yourself.

By Buzzard1985 on 08/02/2008
Cleaned it up a bit, please leave this topic Flame free, no baits or anything.



By Seahawkfan77 on 08/02/2008
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

By Pazenon on 08/02/2008
I'm with you in leaving WG for inactiveness and your need for an active warring machine clan.

Thought I'm against your opinion of turning your back on a community you've been in whilst your stay here in WG, and your friends.

By Wonderboy478 on 08/02/2008
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

By Kiwi011 on 08/02/2008
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:17 pm)
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

duh....try harder? if it doesn't work the first time, learn from what went wrong and fix it.

By Zlatan83 on 08/02/2008
Bye.

By Wonderboy478 on 08/02/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 08, 2008 11:23 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:17 pm)
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

duh....try harder? if it doesn't work the first time, learn from what went wrong and fix it.

fix?

you guys only promote "nice" people so getting anywhere in this joint is like getting up the asskissing ladder.

people dont listen, i constantly say whats needed to leaders and they tell me to do a leaders job so **** that theyre a leader to lead!

By Zlatan83 on 08/02/2008
Please watch your language.

By Zemus3654 on 08/02/2008
u could stick around alil longer sad.gif
though you do have some good points.
cya mate, good luck, wit whatever you do.

By Kiwi011 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:31 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 08, 2008 11:23 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:17 pm)
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

duh....try harder? if it doesn't work the first time, learn from what went wrong and fix it.

fix?

you guys only promote "nice" people so getting anywhere in this joint is like getting up the asskissing ladder.

people dont listen, i constantly say whats needed to leaders and they tell me to do a leaders job so **** that theyre a leader to lead!

you dont need to be a leader to gain respect and get stuff done.....show leadership and people will respect you and do stuff....even if they are lazy....lead by example tbh....not by whining.

By WG_Aaron on 09/02/2008
This week was a bad week.

By Wonderboy478 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 09, 2008 12:06 am)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:31 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 08, 2008 11:23 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:17 pm)
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

duh....try harder? if it doesn't work the first time, learn from what went wrong and fix it.

fix?

you guys only promote "nice" people so getting anywhere in this joint is like getting up the asskissing ladder.

people dont listen, i constantly say whats needed to leaders and they tell me to do a leaders job so **** that theyre a leader to lead!

you dont need to be a leader to gain respect and get stuff done.....show leadership and people will respect you and do stuff....even if they are lazy....lead by example tbh....not by whining.

i have my example and everyone hates it coz i dont kiss ass

By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 09/02/2008
Hate to see you go bro.

By Robertw56 on 09/02/2008
Good post (y)

Good luck wherever you go.

By Elyxiatic on 09/02/2008
I honestly agree with you soo much on the "ass-kissing" gimme rank idea.
Can't we give credit to "good skiller", "top tankers" etc?
Giving that kind of credit for things would get a lot done around here.
People would actually train + turn up to events.

I honestly don't know why you flame + think little of wonderboy. He sees the current problems, he has sticked around long enough (5 months) for them to be fixed + nothing has become of it. In fact, we've moved backwards. I honestly don't think many ppl who are actually interested in fighting want to be in a clan which pulls 4 people to a raid, getting owned upon 2 mins of entry to the bh crater.

For all of you people that say "don't leave why the ship is sinking". People joined this clan , because they thought it was capable in the fighting sector. It is not at the moment. If a clan does not meet a persons requirements to stay there, then I have no problem in letting them leave. When you joined the fighting sector, what did you want from it?

Also, when good fighting members see other "ass-kissing" members get all the ranks in this place, what does that say for the level of "down-to-earthness" this clan has? If we cared about members, recognize the great job that some do on the battlefield + within the skill sector. Being fake nice shouldn't be a main requirement for a promo.

I am honestly happy for you wonderboy.
Today, you have made a good decision.

By WG_Aaron on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Mathsnerd18 @ February 09, 2008 02:42 am)
I honestly agree with you soo much on the "ass-kissing" gimme rank idea.
Can't we give credit to "good skiller", "top tankers" etc?
Giving that kind of credit for things would get a lot done around here.
People would actually train + turn up to events.

I honestly don't know why you flame + think little of wonderboy. He sees the current problems, he has sticked around long enough (5 months) for them to be fixed + nothing has become of it. In fact, we've moved backwards. I honestly don't think many ppl who are actually interested in fighting want to be in a clan which pulls 4 people to a raid, getting owned upon 2 mins of entry to the bh crater.

For all of you people that say "don't leave why the ship is sinking". People joined this clan , because they thought it was capable in the fighting sector. It is not at the moment. If a clan does not meet a persons requirements to stay there, then I have no problem in letting them leave. When you joined the fighting sector, what did you want from it?

Also, when good fighting members see other "ass-kissing" members get all the ranks in this place, what does that say for the level of "down-to-earthness" this clan has? If we cared about members, recognize the great job that some do on the battlefield + within the skill sector. Being fake nice shouldn't be a main requirement for a promo.

I am honestly happy for you wonderboy.
Today, you have made a good decision.

I have to agree. Ive been working my ass off on recruiting. But theres alot of people who blame the leaders for all the problems. I ask you. What have you done for the clan?

By Kiwi011 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 09, 2008 12:42 am)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 09, 2008 12:06 am)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:31 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 08, 2008 11:23 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:17 pm)
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

duh....try harder? if it doesn't work the first time, learn from what went wrong and fix it.

fix?

you guys only promote "nice" people so getting anywhere in this joint is like getting up the asskissing ladder.

people dont listen, i constantly say whats needed to leaders and they tell me to do a leaders job so **** that theyre a leader to lead!

you dont need to be a leader to gain respect and get stuff done.....show leadership and people will respect you and do stuff....even if they are lazy....lead by example tbh....not by whining.

i have my example and everyone hates it coz i dont kiss ass

well for once i agree, the ass kissing should stop tbh. I am still a community member and stuff in wg and i have been in wg for over a year, (before i was community). But becuase i state my opinion against others and stuff....i belive my standing sucks....but still rank doesn't matter,, if you thouroghly represent wg people should follow you....but it may not be your fualt....maybe the members now are just stickupy bitches who have a mentality of a 5 year old.....idk...but you have a point either way but theres always something you can do to help and leaving wg isnt going to help it anymore.

By Wonderboy478 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 09, 2008 04:24 am)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 09, 2008 12:42 am)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 09, 2008 12:06 am)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:31 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 08, 2008 11:23 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 08, 2008 11:17 pm)
QUOTE (Seahawkfan77 @ February 08, 2008 11:09 pm)
meh...i think that if you want to change the clan you should stay, if not, well...i guess you can go to df or w/e.

i try and nothing gets done

and paze, if i go community i still have to put up with the ****

duh....try harder? if it doesn't work the first time, learn from what went wrong and fix it.

fix?

you guys only promote "nice" people so getting anywhere in this joint is like getting up the asskissing ladder.

people dont listen, i constantly say whats needed to leaders and they tell me to do a leaders job so **** that theyre a leader to lead!

you dont need to be a leader to gain respect and get stuff done.....show leadership and people will respect you and do stuff....even if they are lazy....lead by example tbh....not by whining.

i have my example and everyone hates it coz i dont kiss ass

well for once i agree, the ass kissing should stop tbh. I am still a community member and stuff in wg and i have been in wg for over a year, (before i was community). But becuase i state my opinion against others and stuff....i belive my standing sucks....but still rank doesn't matter,, if you thouroghly represent wg people should follow you....but it may not be your fualt....maybe the members now are just stickupy bitches who have a mentality of a 5 year old.....idk...but you have a point either way but theres always something you can do to help and leaving wg isnt going to help it anymore.

so what you want me 2 ride it out and try making it better? ive tried for 5 months, how much longer do i need to be here for anything to get done, if i stood here for another week nothing would change, if i stood here for a month nothing would change. im not letting my time be wasted, by waiting on something that isnt going to happen. in my 5 months things have gone backwards and all everyone says is "itll get better" well its not, and ive lost patience.

By Mickey on 09/02/2008
OMfg wonder, I realy hoped you'd be in WG for a while longer. I will miss you mate. ='''[

By Damien1979 on 09/02/2008
For once i think i completly agree with Maths..

By Sygelig on 09/02/2008
We just have to face that after 10/12 the hugest and most active part (The RS fighting sector) of Runescape left the game, because Jagex trashed the old wilderness. You need to take this into consideration + the compensations for the old Wilderness, aren't fun in some peoples opinion, and that's mainly the reason why we can't pull opts.

Secondly, about the events? Why don't you host some yourself instead of waiting around for them to come. Being a good clanmember is all about spirit and initiative.. And you will be stamped as a lazy clanmember if you just are here to post "GF" in a Pk topic. That's not how it works mate :S

It's not the clanleaders, it's not the councils, it's not applicants we need. We need to stand together and motivate eachother into keeping this clan running. Instead of blaming eachother, then why not brainstorm your mind for ideas to what you could do to improve the clan? The good thing about WG is that you can host your own events, and most of all be yourself. Contribute with who you are and what you can offer, instead of being a gray shade waiting for the grim reaper to give you something to do.

I'm sad to see you go, I really think you're nice person. But please reconsider. We just need to coorporate.

Dallar

By Seahawkfan77 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Sygelig @ February 09, 2008 11:35 am)
We just have to face that after 10/12 the hugest and most active part (The RS fighting sector) of Runescape left the game, because Jagex trashed the old wilderness. You need to take this into consideration + the compensations for the old Wilderness, aren't fun in some peoples opinion, and that's mainly the reason why we can't pull opts.

Secondly, about the events? Why don't you host some yourself instead of waiting around for them to come. Being a good clanmember is all about spirit and initiative.. And you will be stamped as a lazy clanmember if you just are here to post "GF" in a Pk topic. That's not how it works mate :S

It's not the clanleaders, it's not the councils, it's not applicants we need. We need to stand together and motivate eachother into keeping this clan running. Instead of blaming eachother, then why not brainstorm your mind for ideas to what you could do to improve the clan? The good thing about WG is that you can host your own events, and most of all be yourself. Contribute with who you are and what you can offer, instead of being a gray shade waiting for the grim reaper to give you something to do.

I'm sad to see you go, I really think you're nice person. But please reconsider. We just need to coorporate.

Dallar

thats the best post i've seen so far...if we did what you say we could get Wg turned around

By rachellove9 on 09/02/2008
wonder you were one of the people very nice to meet but disturbing too. Once I got to know you more I really like you. I am a skiller and your encouragement got me to do some slayer so thanks and good luck.

I invited some of my fighting friends into the lobby and the sex talk and unfriendliness turned them off to wg. I know you think it is all okay but when you first meet the clan that is the impression you are going to get. I have noticed this has been improving.

I dont claim to know anything about fighting but you all could use some manners in the lobby

<33333
Love




By Wonderboy478 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Sygelig @ February 09, 2008 11:35 am)
We just have to face that after 10/12 the hugest and most active part (The RS fighting sector) of Runescape left the game, because Jagex trashed the old wilderness. You need to take this into consideration + the compensations for the old Wilderness, aren't fun in some peoples opinion, and that's mainly the reason why we can't pull opts.

Secondly, about the events? Why don't you host some yourself instead of waiting around for them to come. Being a good clanmember is all about spirit and initiative.. And you will be stamped as a lazy clanmember if you just are here to post "GF" in a Pk topic. That's not how it works mate :S

It's not the clanleaders, it's not the councils, it's not applicants we need. We need to stand together and motivate eachother into keeping this clan running. Instead of blaming eachother, then why not brainstorm your mind for ideas to what you could do to improve the clan? The good thing about WG is that you can host your own events, and most of all be yourself. Contribute with who you are and what you can offer, instead of being a gray shade waiting for the grim reaper to give you something to do.

I'm sad to see you go, I really think you're nice person. But please reconsider. We just need to coorporate.

Dallar

thats just a reworded version of "itll get better just hang around alittle longer"

and if the leaders arent holding events then why have leaders in the 1st place. i put my ideas to the table and nothing gets done so **** it

By Kiwi011 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 09, 2008 08:12 pm)
QUOTE (Sygelig @ February 09, 2008 11:35 am)
We just have to face that after 10/12 the hugest and most active part (The RS fighting sector) of Runescape left the game, because Jagex trashed the old wilderness. You need to take this into consideration + the compensations for the old Wilderness, aren't fun in some peoples opinion, and that's mainly the reason why we can't pull opts.

Secondly, about the events? Why don't you host some yourself instead of waiting around for them to come. Being a good clanmember is all about spirit and initiative.. And you will be stamped as a lazy clanmember if you just are here to post "GF" in a Pk topic. That's not how it works mate :S

It's not the clanleaders, it's not the councils, it's not applicants we need. We need to stand together and motivate eachother into keeping this clan running. Instead of blaming eachother, then why not brainstorm your mind for ideas to what you could do to improve the clan? The good thing about WG is that you can host your own events, and most of all be yourself. Contribute with who you are and what you can offer, instead of being a gray shade waiting for the grim reaper to give you something to do.

I'm sad to see you go, I really think you're nice person. But please reconsider. We just need to coorporate.

Dallar

thats just a reworded version of "itll get better just hang around alittle longer"

and if the leaders arent holding events then why have leaders in the 1st place. i put my ideas to the table and nothing gets done so **** it

pft...just leave wg i dont even want you around....you have a closed mind and if your ideas aren't put forth you don't fucking give up you egotistical asshole.....

By Wonderboy478 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 09, 2008 09:55 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 09, 2008 08:12 pm)
QUOTE (Sygelig @ February 09, 2008 11:35 am)
We just have to face that after 10/12 the hugest and most active part (The RS fighting sector) of Runescape left the game, because Jagex trashed the old wilderness. You need to take this into consideration + the compensations for the old Wilderness, aren't fun in some peoples opinion, and that's mainly the reason why we can't pull opts.

Secondly, about the events? Why don't you host some yourself instead of waiting around for them to come. Being a good clanmember is all about spirit and initiative.. And you will be stamped as a lazy clanmember if you just are here to post "GF" in a Pk topic. That's not how it works mate :S

It's not the clanleaders, it's not the councils, it's not applicants we need. We need to stand together and motivate eachother into keeping this clan running. Instead of blaming eachother, then why not brainstorm your mind for ideas to what you could do to improve the clan? The good thing about WG is that you can host your own events, and most of all be yourself. Contribute with who you are and what you can offer, instead of being a gray shade waiting for the grim reaper to give you something to do.

I'm sad to see you go, I really think you're nice person. But please reconsider. We just need to coorporate.

Dallar

thats just a reworded version of "itll get better just hang around alittle longer"

and if the leaders arent holding events then why have leaders in the 1st place. i put my ideas to the table and nothing gets done so **** it

pft...just leave wg i dont even want you around....you have a closed mind and if your ideas aren't put forth you don't fucking give up you egotistical asshole.....

so u expect me to spend years trying to get people who dont care to listen? and i find it funny how its community that seems to be giving me the most bulshit, strange that you didnt keep going

By Multikill529 on 09/02/2008
How is you leaving gonna solve anything.

You say things won't get better. They will. Eventually. Or the clan will die and we'll all move on with our lives.

By Kiwi011 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 09, 2008 10:30 pm)
QUOTE (Kiwi011 @ February 09, 2008 09:55 pm)
QUOTE (Wonderboy478 @ February 09, 2008 08:12 pm)
QUOTE (Sygelig @ February 09, 2008 11:35 am)
We just have to face that after 10/12 the hugest and most active part (The RS fighting sector) of Runescape left the game, because Jagex trashed the old wilderness. You need to take this into consideration + the compensations for the old Wilderness, aren't fun in some peoples opinion, and that's mainly the reason why we can't pull opts.

Secondly, about the events? Why don't you host some yourself instead of waiting around for them to come. Being a good clanmember is all about spirit and initiative.. And you will be stamped as a lazy clanmember if you just are here to post "GF" in a Pk topic. That's not how it works mate :S

It's not the clanleaders, it's not the councils, it's not applicants we need. We need to stand together and motivate eachother into keeping this clan running. Instead of blaming eachother, then why not brainstorm your mind for ideas to what you could do to improve the clan? The good thing about WG is that you can host your own events, and most of all be yourself. Contribute with who you are and what you can offer, instead of being a gray shade waiting for the grim reaper to give you something to do.

I'm sad to see you go, I really think you're nice person. But please reconsider. We just need to coorporate.

Dallar

thats just a reworded version of "itll get better just hang around alittle longer"

and if the leaders arent holding events then why have leaders in the 1st place. i put my ideas to the table and nothing gets done so **** it

pft...just leave wg i dont even want you around....you have a closed mind and if your ideas aren't put forth you don't fucking give up you egotistical asshole.....

so u expect me to spend years trying to get people who dont care to listen? and i find it funny how its community that seems to be giving me the most bulshit, strange that you didnt keep going

if it takes you years to get respected.....u should leave....it should only take maybe 3 months to get recognized as a good member and another 3 ish to have people follow you and respect you.

Im community because my acc was banned and when i got it back my first 2 hours of rs were a total bore.....i found css to be much better....

By Wonderboy478 on 09/02/2008
QUOTE (Multikill529 @ February 09, 2008 10:43 pm)
How is you leaving gonna solve anything.

You say things won't get better. They will. Eventually. Or the clan will die and we'll all move on with our lives.

how much time does it take? ive given 5 months, and i can move on and join another clan that can actually pull numbers

By Dalejamesw on 09/02/2008
I wouldnt argue with kiwi 1. You wont win 2. he knows what he talking about

trust me hash.png

By Robertw56 on 10/02/2008
Just let Wonderboy do what he wants, he never signed anything that makes it so he can't leave. I got this bullshit when I left.

By Pminogue on 10/02/2008
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