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Tattling, software piracy, and message privacy.

By RobbieThe1st on 09/09/2008
So, I was recently surfing the net, and saw this ad:
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I was going to write this topic back then, but it skipped my mind. I then saw it again, today, so I am writing this post today.

Anyway, rat out your neighbor/friend/enemy for money. Yea. I despise this kind of thing. It may be the 'right thing' to do, but you DO NOT rat out people for money. That is just low class. Now, I don't think I have to tell you all this, but if I find that someone here has ratted someone else out to an organization like this, he or she is in *BIG* trouble, and I will do what I can to get the guy or girl banned from as many places as I can. Note that I will first make absolutely sure that this person has actually done it, and it isn't someone else being attempting to trick me.

That's the first part.

On to message privacy.
I have run into several instances where someone has posted in a public forum or in a public IRC channel a log or some comments of stuff that happened in a private conversation or PM. I want you all to know that this is unacceptable. If you say something to someone else in a private conversation, it is supposed to be kept private(Unless all parties involved agree for it to be made public). I am going to say that this even applies to stuff that involves breaking forum rules - For example, if you are told by member X, in a private conversation, that he/she just leaked some bit of information to someone out of the clan, you should *NOT* take that information directly to the council or someone in authority(They are going to hate me for this). You should politely ask them to turn themselves in, but you should never violate someones privacy by turning someone in using information said in a private chat. That being said, public chats and posts are different - If someone says something in #wg or #wg_lobby, that is perfectly OK to take to council, or post on the forum in a appropriate area.

If someone says something offensive to you in a private chat, that is a little iffy - You might be justified in reporting that if it was in a WG-centric medium(Like the forum PM system). Any other medium however, its not up to WG to punish the other guy, and we shouldn't think we can. I would strongly suggest simply ignoring the person, and not being baited.
Edit:
So, someone came to me with an interesting question: What do you do if you are talking with someone, and for whatever reason you don't know what to do, or the proper responce and you need someone elses help? One example is suicide - the person you are talking to is planning to commit suicide, and you don't know how to talk them out of it, or what they should do. What then?
Well, I figure that going and asking someone about it without naming names would be fine. Just say something like(for our example) "A person I know is planning to commit suicide. What should I suggest they do?". This allows you to get the information you need, without compromising the other parties privacy.


I may have missed something here, and will edit if that is so.


-RobbieThe1st

By Mager123789 on 09/09/2008
i understand that people would be tempted to report others if they could earn money with it.

But its good you brought this to our attention, that we're a family here.
And we shouldn't be reporting each other for these kind of things..

By Eregion2 on 09/09/2008
That's a little excessive don't you think?

By Rick Hamm on 09/09/2008
In the words of Cuba Gooding Jr. in Jerry McGuire


SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!


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By Sithofwookie on 09/09/2008
thats really low turning in a clanmate =/

btw Rick i love that movie

By For Sooth on 10/09/2008
I dunno, 1 mil is alot.

i dunno if you know, but could pay for my house, may car, my school..... 1 mil goes a long way.

SO just don't tell me your downloading.
































jokes.

By Danltn on 10/09/2008
How about a no-piracy rule? sleep.gif

Seems a pretty nobrainer to me, I haven't seen it anywhere - but I have seen posts/people offering illegal software/music etc for illegal download.

Dan.

[SIZE=1]edit: fixed weird typo.[/small]

By Winddancir on 10/09/2008
QUOTE (Danltn @ September 10, 2008 08:10 am)
How about a no-piracy rule? sleep.gif

Seems a pretty nobrainer to me, I haven't seen it anywhere - but I have seen posts/people offering illegal software/music etc for money.

Dan.

Offering stuff for money... Ew. I'd rather offer things free.

By Danltn on 10/09/2008
QUOTE (Winddancir @ September 10, 2008 11:20 am)
QUOTE (Danltn @ September 10, 2008 08:10 am)
How about a no-piracy rule? sleep.gif

Seems a pretty nobrainer to me, I haven't seen it anywhere - but I have seen posts/people offering illegal software/music etc for money.

Dan.

Offering stuff for money... Ew. I'd rather offer things free.

Then do it in private, not on forums or IRC.

Although you're only technically linking, not hosted illegal content, there have been cases before where a site has been shut down for this reason - Although you can occasionally be "let off" for it, it typically requires a lot of money invested in legal fees.

As to IRC, it's against the IRC networks rules. Don't risk yourself getting banned.

Dan

By Samurai-JM on 10/09/2008
I'm an internet pirate. I have 15+ gigs of downloaded music and 5+ more of movies on my computer right now. I also have 3 bookcases of VHS tapes and DVDs that were copied from blockbuster and redbox. Nearly every full version game and program I have right now was free from the internet, and I have at least 6 burnt copies of Windows XP/Vista sitting behind me.

Try me.

By Danltn on 10/09/2008
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ September 10, 2008 12:21 pm)
I'm an internet pirate. I have 15+ gigs of downloaded music and 5+ more of movies on my computer right now. I also have 3 bookcases of VHS tapes and DVDs that were copied from blockbuster and redbox. Nearly every full version game and program I have right now was free from the internet, and I have at least 6 burnt copies of Windows XP/Vista sitting behind me.

Try me.

As long as that isn't my stuff you're pirating... mad.gif

By Samurai-JM on 10/09/2008
BTW as you can all read you will notice it says "up to 1 million dollars"

that means you ain't gettin a million dollars. you might get like, 5, if that.

nothing is true and everything is permitted.

By Danltn on 10/09/2008
QUOTE (Samurai-JM @ September 10, 2008 12:28 pm)
BTW as you can all read you will notice it says "up to 1 million dollars"

that means you ain't gettin a million dollars. you might get like, 5, if that.


Agreed, you'll probably only get $10. The $1,000,000 is just to draw people in to bitch on their friends.



By Back to Own on 10/09/2008
I would never turn in a friend

I doubt they'd give you 1m dollar for reporting a teenager though hash.png

By Samurai-JM on 10/09/2008
IF ANYONE WANTS FREE GAMES OR PROGRAMS PM ME hash.png hash.png hash.png

By rachellove9 on 11/09/2008
Call me strange but I am afraid to steal anything even a pen at the store checkout. I don't know but it just feels wrong.

By Geoff_Bland on 11/09/2008
Of course it's wrong to steal!

$1m does sound pretty sweet though tongue.gif

By Angus0000 on 11/09/2008
Well personally I believe everyone should feel free to steal music. It really doesn't affect the artist as much as you're led on to believe.

As far as ratting out people you know, especially within the clan, it is the most dickish act you could ever pull in your life.



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