Parth

No arguments.
He's not allowed to attend our events whether or not he is the owner of the account.
He is not allowed in our public IRC.
He is not allowed in our TS.

He is in the hall of shame. That means outcast.

Um why is that? He quit Runescape a very long time ago and gave me his account because Pazenon isn't mine anymore. I've been using him in wars since then.

I know you had a personal vendetta against him, but that doesn't mean you should stop ME from using him account to attend wars. You have every right to ban him from your TS server, your forums, your IRC. But you can't simply stop me from using his account in wars.

Wait, we're angry that Eugene is enforcing a Jagex rule? I need to sit down I feel dizzy...

But that's the thing. He's banned, I'm not. And I already said that I lost Pazenon. I have no other account to use at wars except Parth's.

It's a rare case if you look at the attendees of a WG war and not see someone using someone else's account, it's something that happens between us and the majority are ok with it, it doesn't harm anyone.

oh boy this is gunna be one heated discussion

*sits and grabs some popcorn*

Ok, I think what Pazenon is trying to say is,
a name is just a name.

Now, it's who is under that name that matters.
Path32 Jani now has nothing to do with Parth23 Jani.

Account selling and scamming is against the rules, but neither has been preformed. If the account has been given righteously as a gift, than he has every right to use it. I do not know the original owner of Parth, but as long as someone trusted is using it then it's ok.

Isn't giving accounts to other people considered account sharing which IS against the rules?

If Pazenon has no other account, I think it's fine that he uses Parth. It's not the person Parth in any way shape or form and Pazenon is in control of the account... He's very war active and I need him at my wars. Please let him use Parth.




Brandon

Most people break the rules. Get over it. I've seen numerous times when WG have let people use their accounts and not just for wars. I'd be shocked if I found that someone in WG had never broken a rule before.

He came onto Teamspeak for like 5 minutes the other day, had a nice little catch up and stuff, not gonna lie, i miss him.

Personally I don't give a crap about the account sharing rule (when its used short-term, or when one person has quit the game), but that's just me.

But having a name from the wall of shame at a war does make it a bit messy.

Oh so that wasn't Parth that I saw a while back
I think we should just let Pazenon use Parth's old account.It's better to have one more person then 1 less whether It Is against rs rules

LOL, you guys being serious?

Pazenon is a member of WG.
Pazenon uses Parth's account for wars.

If Pazenon wont be allowed to attend on that account then I will share my account with Pazenon and fucking make a rant for every person who gets on diffrent account.

Amen Zlatan83.

Paz should be allowed to war on Parth until his new account meets the requirements. It's the same story with Gus; people such as Andrew and Dilz let him use their account til his new account gets 100 cmb.

I'd like to direct some to this URL:

Here

I'll quote what I'm talking about specifically:

I'm sorry but i agree with Lordy, no matter his account is banned so people cannot use his account at wars.

I see both sides to this, but really a hall of shame account doesn't belong at our wars. I just makes us look bad. Like we took back someone that was not a good clan mate. For me this issue is not about the Jagex rules as much as it is about reputation.

Wayne was right on everyone of his posts. I agree with him. Account sharing is probably the rule broke most often. Anyone that never let anyone watch their acct at their house or have someone else on it? I'm sure the percentage is low, but that doesn't mean it is not against the rules.

TBH I was most surprised at staff and their comments. I usually respect their views, but this time I would be questioning motive. How important is winning to you? Willing to cheat? Willing to cross our founder's comman sense?

It's only temporarily til Pazenon gets his other account trained.

The question here is that if Paz isn't allowed to use Parths acc, then is Gus allowed to use mine at wars?

You need to take into account that:

1) I am not in the hall of shame
2) It helps in wars when I cannot make it.

Rick that would be extremely low if you reported your own clan.

Now on a different note, leaders of this clan have lent out accounts for wars. I have been asked in the past to share my account.. I think it's acceptable for Paz to use Parth's account for wars, after all, as it's already been said Paz is Paz, not parth.

Ban parth, but don't stop Paz from using his account there's been no problem with it and if you report him I will have no respect for anyone who does.

From the previous topic on RuneScape rules, I think we pretty much came to the conclusion that there are 1) rules that are between players and Jagex, and 2) rules that impact the entire clan due to the actions of even a single member. Whether you're for or against account sharing, this is definitely a number two.

Because of that, the clan has to come to a decision concerning the rule and how it will be upheld. And that means Eugene's word is law (given room for fair debate and criticism). Most irresponsible behavior doesn't fall under the clan purview, but this does, and a decision has been made. We can debate it, but you can't question Eugene's right to make the decision the way he has.

So, debate, sure. But don't expect this to be decided by majority vote.

Rick, I still don't understand why you cherish the Jagex rules to that extent. There would be absolutely no point in arguing with you. Think what you want to think, and I'll do the same.

I really hope that what you said about reporting your clanmates for account sharing isn't true, but I swear, I wouldn't give a damn if you did it to me. I'm not sharing this account with any other person. So do whatever makes you happy.

Paze, have you read Jagex rules? I'm sure it's been posted here already that while you may not be guilty of account sharing, it's still the fact that you have Parth's account and that it was GIVEN to you illegally.

You may not sell, TRANSFER, or lend your account to anyone else. Parth's account was transferred to you, therefore, making it against the rules. Sugarcoat it all you want, you're still guilty.

Oh, and it's true...reminding you that you've been warned. What you do now is up to you.

Buzz, it's the principle of it and the fact that these kids think they can do what they want anytime they want because there will be no recourse. If I have to make an example out of someone, then so be it. I'd rather it not come to that, but if it does, I'll be more than happy to oblige. Maybe he should spend his time working on his own character instead of using someone elses for something as meaningless as a war. You're right, it's a game, but a game that a majority of people play by the rules...why should some not have to?

I already made it clear that I am training an account to make it reach the WG requirements, doing it whenever I am online.

Just leave it as it is, because I can assure you that whatever you say on this topic wouldn't be the reason for me to stop using Parth. I still don't see the point of the ignorance you naturally have when you expect everything to be done the way you want to be done, it's like you think you're never wrong in a debate because, after all, every other person in WG is a "kid" like you just said.

Maybe it should be looked at the other way around.

This is getting beyond a joke. Let me get this straight, they use Parth's account because THEIR Account is shit? Looks like no one read's these post's Lordy.

I hate parth, so naturally i don't want to see his account at a War after everything he did and said to me. Just by looking at a name can remind plenty of people about the past, and i would rather not remember that past.

4 lines down - http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1708/kkk6dg1.jpg

I gave him permission myself.
Pazenon has assured me William has no access to Parth23 Jani.
So the account is 100% Pazenon's and therefore safe.

Well Gene, you've made your decision which, in turn, has made mine.

So we're going to turn a blind eye to rulebreakers only when it helps the clan win wars. How nice.

Don't be so patronizing.
I consider it to be rude.

since when has wg ever followed wg rules rick? Have of wg gets there member ship paid by other members in wg lul.

Chillax.

I will post the official stance of the leadership in an IA shortly.

Issue solved.

Gene and the Council have once and for all made their position on Jagex rule-breaking clear:

http://www.wildernessguardians.com/forum/i...?showtopic=6259

Read the topic above and let there never be any more drama because of this.



~George