I don't know where you guys live but those ARE NOT WINTER COATS, they're like fall type things for at night lol. Those "winter coats" would not stand up to -20 celsius with 60km/h winds. I wouldn't be caught dead in a snowstorm with one of those on.
In Canada, this is a winter coat.
http://www.mec.ca/Products/product_detail....D=1224523533257...ok I realise that might be a little too hardcore lets climb a mountain in the middle of winter buts its warm as hell and the same price as what could spend on a less warm but more popular snowboard jacket lol.
http://store.burton.com/Burton_Snowboards_...D=1224523853497