[MASS NOW] Extra Raid - PvP

NH -.- crashing other's, nice. I may hate Alec but i want nothing to do with him, so i will be giving this a miss.

How is it NH? They are Pking, we are Pking? Clans have been doing it for centurys, I don't want to get into a arguement with you but lay the fuck off stuff you don't know much about.

I know nothing about? Your doing it because they are no longer allies. They have not comfronted us lately. I just hope you realise they will retaliate. You know people have history with BoS which is why you zero'd out on Alec, he maybe a dick but at the end of the day going out to PK them will just show we have sunk to their level as a clan.

Hunting other clans in the Wilderness is not really crashing, it's part of the PK'ing system. Crashing is for planned stuff such as Planned run in's and Wars.

If it's crashing then think about it, we wouldn't be able to fight a single clan now would we?

It's a PKING trip. They are out looking for a fight. We aren't allied with them. If we know where they are, why not give them a fight?

Read my edited post. You're just gonna make things look bad for WG. Goodluck with that.

Simon, Alec harassed me again recently. So yes, I'd like to take the time to do this. He took it to a personal level. Sorry Simon, but the reason I'm going doesn't involve you.

Maybe not, but involving the WHOLE clan does im afraid.

We hunt them, they may hunt us, we hunt them back, and the cycle goes.

It's really just ment to be for fun, no need to get annoyed at small stuff like these.

But I do, im out. Ill be seeing my nan then anyways.

His Lordship changed his name.

No Zlat, i lol at this clan, it's screwing its own image. Flame me or flame bait me all you want, i just hope you all realise what a big mistake this is.

Your kinda blowing this out of proportion, if you were here before JaGeX nerfed the wildy you will remember that we would actually find tracks on clans and hunt them in the wildy, we'd have people spy and see their opts and their levels. Honestly if we know their going out, whether or not we've got a bad past with them or not, go for it. It's fun instead of walking around in circles for 2 hours.

Edit: Not spy on their forums for people who thought that, I mean have a level 3 wait at the Greater Demons and watch for teams and find their opts, in other words spying on them while they pk.

0% (*points at Emeritus rank*)

Wtf.
This is perfectly normal clan tactics.
If idiots let their raid times slip, thats their fault.

Wtf is wrong with you dude?

haha you just cant stop make me laughing

That is a euphemism if I have seen one before. If you are NH, then spying on clans to get their raid times is just a tactic, but otherwise it is not. Certainly if a clan spied on us and used the information to crash our raid, we would rightly call them NH. I am not saying we are being hypocritical, but rather that we are just plain wrong in this situation.

BTO, you are twisting the honor code of this clan in order to justify pixel hugging. The argument that our goal is to kill pkers by any dishonorable means necessary is completely flawed.

Anti-rpking is about more than just killing any pkers, it is about being an honorable fighter and fighting those who prey on the weak. That code of ethics extends to pkers aswell, which is why we do not 1-item, BS, spy, or crash. All these dishonorable activities could be used to kill and frustrate more pkers, however that is a gross perversion of anti-rpking. Anti-rpking is not an end, but a means. What I mean to that is that that having a goal (ends) to disrupt pking by killing many pkers is foolish and unrealistic. Anti-rpking is a code of conduct, a means in which to pk with honor, respect, and dignity.

There is nothing wrong with taking out a smaller clan or pkers, however to specifically target a weaker clan through dishonorable means (spying or abusing an information leak) is antithetical to anti-rpking.

Zlat, Ying is not the only one who thinks this is a mistake, so it would be wise of you to stop laughing.

EDIT: Just to clarify, when I say spying is dishonorable, I am refering to planting a member or proxy on their forums/chat/TS. Scouting in RS is not dishonorable.

Who said anything about us obtaining this info through having a spy in their forums/irc/ts?

Oh and if someone comes to you and tells you a clan is pking which you know that can be easily PK'd, should we just leave them? Not really. Would be stupid

No1 has been planted, No1 has been asked for the times. Someone from another clan told me.

So we have a proxy, that is not much of a difference. It is still dishonorable even if someone else does the dirty work.

Raging, I agree, if we are told a clan is out pking we should persue them, however this is different because we are using information acquired from their forums to specifically crash their raid.