Where it's going.

I just watched this, and its incredible. This video upholds everything that I have believed my entire life, and shows it in the open for the public to see. It seems terrifying just how true it all sounds though, and how it can really be happening right before our eyes... I don't know if this is old, or if you've seen this before, or if this video is a big issue of controversy at the moment, but here it is, take it as you will.

All I ask is that you don't flame over this, and PLEASE don't look 5 minutes into it and dismiss it as a conspiracy. Watch the whole thing, the first few minutes aren't very well scripted, but after that it really opens up begins the parts you need to see. Overview is below.

Video.

Readable Version for part 1, with EVERY claim linked to the cited source for proof.

Overview:

Part 1: The Greatest Story Ever Told.
-Connecting Religions(ALL religions, not just Christianity) to each other, and to ancient astrology and Egyptian ideas.
-Shows how every major religion is simply a story, which has been told over and over again and recently manipulated by politics to strangle the people in fear of a "Divine Presence".
-Think about it, honestly. Every religion celebrates a different form of "God" right? They all think the others are wrong right? Well if they think they are right, and you think you are right, but you also think everyone else is wrong, SOMEBODY has to be wrong, right? Or perhaps... it's the same story... just in different words and names... and it's all just that, a story? Keep one very strong fact in mind when you think about this: The Bible is MANMADE. You would trust whoever wrote it with knowledge that controls your entire life? You would seriously just accept that instead of seeking the truth behind it? Pity.

Part 2: The Whole World's a Stage.
-Investigating more into 9/11 and the War on Terror. Gets proof from inside the sites of the incident as well as real life victims and experts who have first hand accounts of what happened.
-Connects the Gov't to several other incidents in the past, and how they are all against the people.
-My father was an electrician for 20+ years, and he knows what a demolition is like, and he agrees 100% with this theory as well. And how does a building far across the lot, with NO impact to it at all(that also went completely unmentioned by the Gov't) collapse with a completely identical process as controlled demolition?

Part 3: Don't Mind the Men Behind the Curtains.
-Shows what is really going on in the high society of the world, and what they have planned for the rest of us. This is freaking scary.
-The most important part by far, as the other two are normally thrown off as "Conspiracy", but this part affects EVERYONE, and it's already beginning. Another interesting bit that I just found on the Rothschild Dynasty of international banking familes, it's an excerpt from "Descent Into Slavery" by Des Griffin: The Rothschild Dynasty.


Moral of the story, people are separate. They are raised to be separate. They are brought up that way by a corrupt government with corrupt education and never taught to know any better. They are kept apart by barriers of Race, Religion, Class, and Status(all of which are placed there by those same corrupt people behind the scenes), and taught to see the differences in people rather than the similarities. Why? So that those who put the corruption in place can have control in the end, so that you won't be able to fight back. You can't deny that, as already many are denying any points brought up in this video, which alone shows how much we fight and argue. We were raised to disagree, and it seems to have worked out for the worst. In a few months there will be a 4th part to the video, and it will show what we can all do to fight back against the men behind the curtains, and possibly save the world.


Everything is cited here: SOURCES
It is all taken from history, and experts all over the world(LOTS of experts) who all agree. This video has already started a bit of a revolution, and is setting up viewings all over the world in hundreds of locations. If this really is happening, I personally want to be ready for it.

Whenever all of you have time, I HIGHLY recommend you watch this video. It can change everything you think you know about life today.

Can you give me a bried explanation of what it is?

For one, I really cba to watch 2 hours of footage, nor do I have the time.

It's two hours of the most important information you will ever see. Every major issue in our lives today discussed, unraveled, and blown away.

Religion

Politics

The World and your place in it.

All of it, it's just unbelievable but it's so true.

On IRC, we were talking about 9/11. This is probably a load of balls, but I found it kinda cool. It was a friends bebo acc;

9/11
1) New York City has 11 letters

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin
Towers in 1993) has 11 letters.

4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state.

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number
11.

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers.
6+5 = 11

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number
911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was
254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4
= 11.

3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11.

4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers
incident.

Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is
the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic
holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.
The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,
while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for
the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was
peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran.

unconvinced about all of this Still ..?! Try this and see how you feel
afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first
plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS

What do you think now?!!

It's quite interesting, but 2 hours is a long time. Don't expect people to watch it mate :S

Dallar

Is it politically unbiased? I'd like to know before I invest 2 hours of my time into watching.

expect my post sometime this weekend tbh. Ill watch it then.

Aha Gus, that's pretty interesting. But verse number 9.11 of the Quran? In Chapter 9 verse 11, there is no such mention of that - translation and commentary. No such thing in Chapter 11 verse 9 either so I don't know what they're talking about. Where'd you get that from?

IDK. 2 hours of footage seems to be too much of my time to give away. Possibly this weekend when i don't have AP tests to study for...

Seriously, when any of you have time, please watch it. It's a HUGE eye opener.

Uhh Me9 and Paz, I don't have any clue about it. It was just posted on the Bebo Blog of one of my friends, so I thought I might aswell bring it up

Ah, I see

But make sure you check this out, Sam is swearing on this thing and I'm calling it out as the biggest BS ever.

It's not that it's false (that 100 mil is though, it has to be) but it's just the way it's presented that really like grinds my gears.

Hey, anyone else notice how Peter Joseph cited NONE of his sources?

Kthx. Movie's a load of crap.

>< The way the vid is set up sucks, Get past the religion part, it's by far the least important section of this video. The 3rd part is what matters.

and ALL of the sources are cited, look over the rest of the website lmao.

I'll watch it all, trust me

I'll probably get to it tomorrow.

I'm like 40 mins in, but still in the religion section.

I'm biased against you forever if you don't watch it. NAOW

but yea, its basically against the Gov't of the world as a whole lmao, main the American Gov't though.

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=315499

Damn you Sam , one of those dudes has a sig with the quote from the video...

Why did you have to infect GTA forums?!

I watched it.

I think that this vid......is so intricately made so that it not only does it blame all religion especially Christianity, but it also blame the United States for the 911 so called conspiracy.

Anyone who watches this will certainly look at the Christians in a different light. It makes alot of claim and they really show it in a way that it could actually make sense....in a manipulative way.

For Example.....not all Christians believe that Jesus was born on Decemeber 25. That quote alone makes the video incompetent. Secondly, the comparison against the Egyptian belief is nothing but lies and manipulation of the truth. The Egyptians were the closest to all Israelites and it would not be surprising that they would emulate the story for themselves....this vid has certainly made claims that they were the first to make this story and that the Christians just accepted with a few changes here and there. Could you actually believe the Egyptians? I mean, the Egyptians who hated Hebrews, Egyptians who claimed themselves to be Gods, and Egyptians who were so badly burned by the true God that I guess they never got over the fact that their slaves were taken from them......my points are not backed by facts, but just as the assumption and the comparison is there in the vid, so have I used it in this form.

Many mistranslations? Ahhh duhhhhhh.......Thats like me saying to someone who came from another country, write down what I say to you word for word. The scribe may know how to speak in my language, but he can certainly change the words as how at that time saw fit....if I am still not making any sense, consider this.........In filipino the words I LOVE YOU is Mahal Kita. But it is not written like I... LOVE.....YOU...rather......LOVE ME YOU! Now that it is said in that way, you would probably wonder why it didn't sound the same way.....thus the language barrier. If you want to understand something from another language, learn the language and learn how each words are used correctly....just like English. You may have a different meaning to what was said, but the overall meaning is still there, but the purest meaning is gone in the translation.

Then there was the conspiracy about 911 and other wars....OMG come on, are you guys still regurgitating this? I mean was I the only one who saw that STUPID PLANE CRASH INTO THE TOWER? I mean, those muslims who took those planes actually look like Muslims BECAUSE THEY ARE!!!!!!! How in the hell can a govenment manipulate something to tragic and call it a conspiracy theory from the govenment.......yea the govenment is fickle, that I agree with, but to blame them for the lives of the people that was in that plane is ludicrous. And then they had the audacity to compare it to all the other theories that dated back how long ago? In the 20s? It is almost as stupid as that stupid Rosey Odonell saying.......METAL DOESN'T MELT, IT HAS BE SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT TOWER TO MAKE IT EXPLODE LIKE THAT! WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do agree with the theory of the taxes....yes, our family has strugggled with the taxes here in the USA and I can tell you from experience that the FEDERAL state has taken more money from my fiances pocket that we could probably buy 2 houses with all the money he lost. And there is this 16th amendment that was added into the constitution that states, that if anyone didn't pay taxes that they could end up in jail......so yeah the banks and all their usuary has corrupted the UNITED STATES with its monetary delusions.

The vid overall is very biased. Not only did they segregate Christianity to make an example, they also segregated the USA just to make a point. You can say that the vid is ANTI CHRISTIAN AND ANTI AMERICA.....The question I propose.......who created this vid and who do they associate themselves with?

I would not have wasted my time watching the vid because it was way too long...I don't even like movies that go over 2 hours....but curiosity set in and I was curious....but at least I can say that I watched it before I posted.


Facts: Jesus was never born on December 25.....that was the day of his conception. Please don't ask me to give reference because I doubt you would even look at them with open eyes.

Facts: They may have stories similar to the story of Christ, but Christ was written also in the OLD TESTAMENT which predates these other so called stories.

Facts: The IRS SUCKS.

Just as a precaution to the non believers of any religion. All religion has bases on them, just because you do not belong to a certain religion, you have no right to tell them that they are stupid for believing so.....in your judgment call, you yourself cannot proof that there is no deity either, so your accusation holds no water. Be careful what you say to those who believe, you are not in their shoes nor are they in yours.

I have personally have a relationship with my God because of my experience in life and my fervence in the search of truth. My faith is enough to hold me and convince me of what I believe....I have done the research necessary for my benefit, and I have the relationship in my God for my benefit and the benefit of my children. My belief did not just come to me suddenly. It is painful and exhilirating at the same time, but just because you cannot see what I see, doesn't make me wrong about my belief, it will just take you longer to understand why I believe the way I do.....so if your intention to shed light to religion is right, then you would not be posting vids in here that contradicts their belief, you might as well have posted things about Muslims, Buddishts, and all the other IST in this world.....you won't change their mind because it is their path that they are following. I have not animosity towards those who believe differently from myself, but you are giving me the go ahead to slam your belief too, because you want to shed the light. Take it as you will, if you grew up in another country, I am sure that you would be subjected to the religion being taught at that time, but growing up and finding for yourself is totally the opposite. You can wake up one day and have an epiphany about God or about yourself....no matter what....it is your destiny and your fate....no one elses..

the Z-Day event was this Sunday(the 15th) and apparantly it was a big hit. nearly 100,000 people worldwide showed up. I wanted to get a showing on in my neighborhood, but I found this only recently so I didn't have time >< part 2 will be coming out soon with plans on what we can all do to prevent this crisis from ever occuring.

I still highly encourage you all to watch this video, arm yourself with the knowledge to live free and independently, or remain a slave to secrecy.

And oh yes, to those who still cherish your religious views... If the Lord is your shepherd... what does that make you?

"The lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie
Through pastures green he leadeth me the silent waters by.
With bright knives he releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
For lo, he hath great power, and great hunger."
-Pink Floyd - Sheep

Oh yea, anyone who has ever done research on the Illuminati, the Knights Templar, the Masons, etc, should know EXACTLY what could be going on behind the scenes at this very moment. This all makes sense, is all possible, and all highly probable to be perfectly honest.

You can't go and preach this stuff because it fits, or makes sense. If you've read Dan Brown's "The DaVinci Code", or "Angles and Demons," everything there makes sense also. What I think you're interested in, is not the facts really, but the way these people are able to connect them. If you've done the research and have a bit of background, you can connect almost anything to something else and make it seem believable.

You also need to consider the fact that this is just ONE way of looking at it. If something goes wrong with a computer, there are a number of things that could be the cause. You could get five technicians and they could give you five different reasons for a computer crash given the exact same data (if you've ever watched House, I got this from an episode). I'm sure if I had the time and the desire to make my own path, I could make it look very real, but is it real?

People are always saying "Seeing is believing", but does it mean that is exactly what it is? If some, even a majority say it seemed like the building went down as if it was demolished internally is that true? If you've read Copenhagen you'll know that there are multiple ways at looking at each situation, and that you can never know everything about a situation because if you're looking at the situation from one side, you're NOT looking at it from the other side.

Let me ask you something. Have you ever watched the movie, "The Bourne Identity"? If you have, try and remember the part, towards the beginning where he's in the American Consulet. There is a scene with hordes of Marines and policemen running through the building and up the stairs fully armed. Sort of makes sense right? An American government building housing secret information that if in the wrong hands could be deadly. Seems right that this information should be guarded. If you even believed that for a second, no matter how real it seems I'll let you know that is pure 100% BULL! I know this for a fact.

I'm not doubting that the information used in the film is not factual, I'm sure it is. I just want you to know, that before you start saying it's a huge eye-opener and it's the *truth*, that you should step back and really think about it. One persons opinion made into a movie and that is the truth? We're all so ignorant and gullible that we've been manipulated so much? I don't think so.

I mean try this out:

If we take Gusmighster's quote:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle.
The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo,
while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for
the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was
peace."

He's already made the connection that America is the eagle. What about the part where it says the eagle cleansed the lands, and there was peace. It means that what we're doing IS in fact right. It will bring peace. We took Sadam out, and that was causing the upset, with him gone, the cleansing has begun and peace will soon follow. We should just stay in this war.

It's believable. It's not fact. It's not the truth.

Oh, and I'm a Democrat/Liberal whatever you want to call it. I'm totally against this war and think it should end ASAP.

Colonel I completely agree with everything you are saying, however theres one thing I have to stand by. Before I even saw this movie I could see these things going on, it isn't difficult to see that things are going wrong quickly. I believed many of these ideas brought up long before this movie existed, and this was just a perfect way to display it to everyone.

And to that quote, where does it say that the Arabians are rejoicing or despairing? Could it not also mean that all others are despairing(you are aware of how many people in America and over the whole world that are against this war) and will rejoice when we finally end it and resort to nuclear warfare or worse to "cleanse the land"? Surely you see that the Middle East is just about all that stands in the way of the "peace" that the world seeks, but what will this "peace" bring? What will the costs be to end all conflict forever? I was playing Assassin's Creed over the weekend, and it revolves around the Knights Templar a lot, and I realized something, that the basic plot of the KT is still going on. The end goal is decent, world peace and all that, but what it takes to get that is basically slavery and slaughter until everyone agrees to shut up and stop fighting, while doing exactly what they are told.

You are right, everything can have different meaning, and everything can be believed and not the truth, but this is what I believe, and I have believed long before this movie, and I'll stand by it.

I read some of the transcript to the first part, and to be honest it seems like a grand series of leaps-of-faith that in the end give the impression that everything is connected. To anyone interested in this stuff, I would recommend the book "The Hiram Key." I have read the Da Vinci Code, and in my opinion The Hiram Key is much better. Granted, in the book they make quite a few leaps themselves, but atleast it is more scholarly (certianly when compared to Dan Brown or this video) and more grounded in its conclusions.

As for 9/11 conspiracy theories, I have heard a few and none have really been able to convince me. Most of them resort to filling in the blanks with whatever supports their theories instead using credible evidence. Not everything on 9/11 seems to add up...so therefore the US or the Zionists must have done it? Sadly, that is how alot of people think.

I think ill skip the first two parts, and see if the 3rd part has anything interesting.

BTW I also found this, it's rather interesting to read. It could all be total BS but still it supports part 3 of this video in some huge ways. It's an excerpt from "Descent into Slavery" by Des Griffin, a real book with real ideas.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/slavery.htm

(ignore the url, its not religious at all, and has nothing to do with slavery, its about BANKERZORZ)

He is kinda right, it's human nature. There is not a single aspect of life as we know it that at least someone won't be willing to argue on. You say the sky is blue, a colorblind person may refuse to believe he's colorblind and say its red. There's no stopping it. ><

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dY4WlxO6i0&NR=1
Watch it, sums it all up.

Sry Parth, argue time

That first link, I LOL'd my face off. His entire arguement against that video(which I haven't even seen myself, so I don't know what is or nor do I care), is that the one dude is alive and the gov't wouldn't be so stupid as to let him post it. Seriously, why would the gov't go our of their way to KILL some kid and his friends because they made a conspiracy video, when they KNOW that millions of Americans won't believe it anyway because they have them right where they want them. They know that these videos don't make much of a difference, but if they go out and freaking KILL the dude, now THAT would send a message that might shake up the American opinion on these conspiracies a bit. That page is completely rediculous. And the $20 bill thing? WTF lol, if you believe that in the first place you deserve to die.



The 2nd link, although while actually providing relevant data, is saying exactly the same thing as the whole 9/11 commission, which I'm still determined to show is complete BULL. Everywhere it says "Oh there's no evidence that this happened" or "Oh the exact stuff in this situation just made it LOOK like this is what happened, but it didn't", while all the important details are just brushed off as unimportant. Doesn't convince me at all.


The third link goes over a load of conspiraces that I've never even heard of, except the one I'm about to explain below. It also disagrees with your second link in a variety of areas, such as the collapse method(which I still believe to be a demolition based upon witness reports of explosions, evidence found at the scenes including molten metal(which your links say never existed), and cut, not broken, support beams) and yea... "Since the stories below the level of collapse initiation provided little resistance to the tremendous energy released by the falling building mass, the building section above came down essentially in free fall, as seen in videos. As the stories below sequentially failed, the falling mass increased, further increasing the demand on the floors below, which were unable to arrest the moving mass.” Sorry, but so many stories of concrete and steel floors providing LITTLE RESISTANCE? Are you freaking kidding me? Experts all over the world agree that "An object at rest tends to stay at rest" right? Well CONCRETE AND STEEL are pretty freaking resisting objects!


Just keep one thing in mind(and also keep in mind this is only one little itty bitty piece of this puzzle), NORAD hit every single target they had ever received with 100% accuracy over years before 9/11 occured, EVERY one. On 9/11 there just happened to be over quadruple of the normal amount of "tests" going on all over the Eastern shore, and several of them involved tests exactly detailing what was about to happen on that day, making it impossible for NORAD themselves to determine which were real, and which were trials. It all just happened to occur at the exact same time as the "terrorist attacks", right? Sounds a bit iffy to me.

Now I'll give you one thing. There are A LOT of idiotic and completely rediculous theories out there, but there are also A LOT of them, all detailed in full in zeitgeist, that actually work, and can't be disproved. Jet Fuel doesn't vaporize modern steel buildings and planes. It simply doesn't.

Well the first link was actually there because its funny.
Also , the other links explained that the jet fuel didnt vaporise the steel -
'The collapse of the WTC towers was not caused either by a conventional building fire or even solely by the concurrent multi-floor fires that day. Instead, NIST concluded that the WTC towers collapsed because: (1) the impact of the planes severed and damaged support columns, dislodged fireproofing insulation coating the steel floor trusses and steel columns, and widely dispersed jet fuel over multiple floors; and (2) the subsequent unusually large, jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires weakened the now susceptible structural steel. No building in the United States has ever been subjected to the massive structural damage and concurrent multi-floor fires that the towers experienced on Sept. 11, 2001'.

The whole thing is not something I've looked too much into in the past or anything , but its just ridiculous. People make these conspiracy theories up because they've got nothing better to do. They throw some stuff in there like the temp's at which steel melts and make themselves look clever and their theorieslegit.

Also , about the collapse , look at it this way.
Say the plane hit floor 15 and broke the support column's.This makes all the floors above fall on floor 14 which then falls on 13 etc. There's no way one of the floors could stop the fall. Thats what it means by little resistance.

What I meant by the fall is the speed at which it fell, which was essentially freefall. There is absolutely no physical way on Earth that those floors(or anything for that matter) could fall faster than freefall speed, so that is the max. Even then, it is impossible for it to fall at that speed with so much resistance in the way without some other force moving out of the way, aka explosions. The way those links explained it, the force of the air pushed debris out of the way so it could move at freefall, but the force of the air itself is air resistance, not even including the resistance of the steel and concrete. It's impossible.

If you make a box out of cardboard or something and then have holes in places , when you apply pressure , the air will escape the box through those holes.
Thats what was happening , and when the air was going outwards , it took some debris along with it.
I dont know if it fell faster than freefall or anything , but you shouldnt believe it just because you saw it in that video. And there must be an explanation somewhere if it did happen.
If you spent some time reading all the stuff against the conspiracy theory rather than about it , I'm sure you will find all the explanation you need , to not believe it

I do nothing but go about persuading you all, old and young alike, not to take thought for your persons or your properties, but and chiefly to care about the greatest improvement of the soul. I tell you that virtue is not given by money, but that from virtue comes money and every other good of man, public as well as private. This is my teaching, and if this is the doctrine which corrupts the youth, I am a mischievous person.

^- Socrates said that, and it's what I'm sayin now. I don't wanna let this sink to the bottom, watch the Addendum and check back later this year for what they plan to do. The world's changing people, get ready for it.