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Abusing the *new* drop system.

By Stokenut on 10/12/2008
On December the 9th, the PVP drop tables were tweaked and we were given an insight onto exactly how drops are calculated. After a little thought and a few hours experimenting I've come up with a training regime that can't be beaten. Based upon yesterday's results, over 85,000 agility XP i made over 11.5m, Jess did about 1/3rd of the drops I did and made 4m, my friend Echliurn did as many drops as me and gained around 13m.

Going at my rate yesterday, I stand to make 1,621,500,000 gp CASH training agility to 99 via the wilderness course. This is how I do it...

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STEP 1

You spend 1-2 hours in a dangerous PVP done (Varrock, Falador, Ardougne, Wilderness... you get the idea.) With over 75,000gp worth of items that you would stand to lose should you die. This is my setup for agility training in the wilderness:
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Equally, you could train other skills. Such as magic, melee, ranged, mining, thieving, woodcutting or any other skill in a none-red-skull zone, however your invisible PVP loot potential bar will go up much slower.

Here is what you might wear for magic:
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A mining example:
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But be creative! How about training range, or melee combat skills on fire giants underground in level 52 wilderness? Hell, you could even max out there!
STEP 2

Now you need to do your kills. You must defeat a player, while risking over 75,000gp worth of items should you die in the circumstance where the player you defeat [u[loses[/u] over 25,000 GP.

The best method of doing this is to stand in full single PK-gear, upstairs on the 3rd floor of Varrock castle. Next, have a partner run up to you with 26,000 coins in his or her inventory and a familiar summoned to make their combat level higher so your kill is recorded as more impressive.

Now you just spec them out. It's advised that you do 3-5 kills every 2 hours of training.

The best way to find a partner to do drops with it to just train with them! It makes training more fun and after you can just kill each other alternatively for your loot.

Now you just spec them out. It's advised that you do 3-5 kills every 2 hours of training.

RESULTS
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I'll post more loot pics later, i don't generally screenshot stuff under 3m.

Do NOT show this guide to anyone outside WG. Unless you want it nerfed.

-Steve

By Mager123789 on 10/12/2008
Oo,
I'll try this out asap when i get p2p again tongue.gif

By Troll84 on 10/12/2008
Nice, How many kills did ya do?

By Stokenut on 10/12/2008
3-6 kills, depends how long your "luck" rating holds out per round.

By NightRawrs on 10/12/2008
Yup it's good, i'd recomend it. smile.gif

But do not leak else it wont be around for long.

By Abmanju on 10/12/2008
Ownage guide.

IF YOU LEAK THIS TO ANYONE, YOU WILL HAVE NOTHING LEFT@@@@

~Abs

P.S. - I owned randy for a 33, 34, it was a real fight, Corrupted Stetias platebody or something, along with 400k of other junk stuff. So I made 1m first time trying this out, 'tis useful. I think I'll do this for a while so I can stock up on Rune set before I go inactive@

By Chimpy on 10/12/2008
I got a decent drop earlier today without going into the wildy for a couple hours. Worth about 330k total.

By Sithofwookie on 11/12/2008
Let me get this straight, you go train agility or other stuff for about 2 hours with 75k worth of stuff in your inventory then go kill you friend up in the castle with his familiar summoned?

By Dilz621 on 11/12/2008
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By Back to Own on 11/12/2008
Whenever im not doing anything or dont want to scape, ill leave my acc in lava maze. Tried afking last night, but i got killed by a random 1 hour in angryhahs.gif.png

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By Randy on 11/12/2008
These +60k (forgot to add in)
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For a little more than an hour.
Really fun smile.gif

By Lee on 11/12/2008
Died.
Again.
All i do.
Is die.



By Indivi2you on 11/12/2008
Umm, does it matter if you leave the red-skull-zone if you've been three for like 2 hours.

Let's say your training mining/agility in the wildy. Then you want to meet to kill your partner, and go to a bank or something, does that matter?

By Ignite 168 on 11/12/2008
QUOTE (Indivi2you @ December 10, 2008 08:13 pm)
Umm, does it matter if you leave the red-skull-zone if you've been three for like 2 hours.

Let's say your training mining/agility in the wildy. Then you want to meet to kill your partner, and go to a bank or something, does that matter?

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For every 30 minutes you spend on a PvP world outside of a safe zone, your drop potential will increase. Those 30 minutes do NOT have to be all in one go - you can log out or visit safe zones - but the system only counts full minutes, so it will likely take longer to build up your drop potential if you do not spend 30 consecutive minutes outside of safe zones.


Tempted to try this, but it seems so broken sleep.gif

By WG Justin on 11/12/2008
who wants to try this with me after work?

By Back to Own on 11/12/2008
Did some with darf yesterday:
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~1.2m total pc total from other drops

Did some today with drew after afking a couple of hours in hotzone

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~3.5m total with other drops

So about 4.7m total so far

I really want a pvp specfic drop paranoid.gif

By Sithofwookie on 11/12/2008
I got berserker ring and dragon hally!!

By Winddancir on 11/12/2008
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The best method of doing this is to stand in full single PK-gear, upstairs on the 3rd floor of Varrock castle. Next, have a partner run up to you with 26,000 coins in his or her inventory and a familiar summoned to make their combat level higher so your kill is recorded as more impressive.

Having a pouch in inventory also boosts the person's lvl. All I've gotten so far is a d hally frown.gif

By David on 11/12/2008
We should have a weekly event for this!

It would be up to the person to prepare by staying in the Wilderness for a specific amount of time, but then we all meet up and kill each other. Like 3-5 kills per person then you switch off.

Basically a quick "luck" event. The hope is that you get at least one decent drop because you'd be risking 26k*5=130k (max).

Anyway, I'll try this. Maybe do some farming runs on PvP and kill some Greens as well.

By Mager123789 on 11/12/2008
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Without standing in a pvp zone.
Logged in, killed BPN few times.
These were the big drops, got some junk kills too (each time +150k).

By Renegade3540 on 11/12/2008
Have to say this is a great idea.

Btw the amount of drop potential you lose depends on the drop you get. Thus meaning if you get 3 bad drops in a row you'll still have a chance to get a good one but if oyu get 3 good one in a row it's doubtable you'll be getting another good drop.

By Geoff_Bland on 11/12/2008
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After an hour in a hotzone. Did 3 kills with Mickey each. Not too good loot frown.gif

By Samurai-JM on 11/12/2008
hmmm... I could use this. O_o too bad i dont play lolroonskape anymore

By Back to Own on 11/12/2008
If you're not egtting that great loot, spend more time on pvp

My daily rs schedule is this:

Log on, get in hotzone, afk

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By Geoff_Bland on 11/12/2008
I attempted this again with the utmost fail L. Might just spend all day in PvP tomorrow.

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By Angus0000 on 11/12/2008
QUOTE (Geoff_Bland @ December 11, 2008 03:31 pm)
I attempted this again with the utmost fail L. Might just spend all day in PvP tomorrow.

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It's not that much of a fail, you're still getting a lot for nothing.

By Back to Own on 12/12/2008
2-3 hours of potential, 5 kills

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6.1m so far

By Randy on 12/12/2008
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By Nick on 12/12/2008
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I had a d hally last night after 1 hour.
When I got home I did another hour... first kill was combat bracelet + rune hally + rune boots, and the second was the picture. Not bad for 2 hours.

By Geoff_Bland on 12/12/2008
@Angus: Half of that doesn't sell in GE frown.gif

By Geoff_Bland on 12/12/2008
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It is interesting to note that fighting NPCs on a PvP world will also increase your "good" drop potential. Because of this, players are encouraged to fight NPCs and build up their drop potential before battling it out with other players if they wish to get the more desirable drops.


Just read that and thought how good it would be if you killed NPC's in a hotzone. Your drop potential would increase significantly.

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On rare occasions, a player may drop extremely rare items such as the fabled Dragon Full Helm, the Dragonfire Shield, and Dragon Chainbody if both players are risking at least 75,000 gp worth of items. If the winner is lucky enough, and has met the requirements for the desired drop, they may just receive one of these prized items


And that's very intresting aswell. Maybe we should try bringing 75k with us when it's our turn to die instead of 25k.

By David on 12/12/2008
QUOTE (Geoff_Bland @ December 12, 2008 01:47 pm)
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It is interesting to note that fighting NPCs on a PvP world will also increase your "good" drop potential. Because of this, players are encouraged to fight NPCs and build up their drop potential before battling it out with other players if they wish to get the more desirable drops.


Just read that and thought how good it would be if you killed NPC's in a hotzone. Your drop potential would increase significantly.

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On rare occasions, a player may drop extremely rare items such as the fabled Dragon Full Helm, the Dragonfire Shield, and Dragon Chainbody if both players are risking at least 75,000 gp worth of items. If the winner is lucky enough, and has met the requirements for the desired drop, they may just receive one of these prized items


And that's very intresting aswell. Maybe we should try bringing 75k with us when it's our turn to die instead of 25k.

Do you think you NEED to have at least 75k to get DFH, DFS or Chain? Or is that just a recommendation? I know it says "at least" but maybe that's an encouragement?

Would be nice to find out.

By Lee on 12/12/2008
Ive actually made a loss doing this, so i must be doing something wrong i think


By Dilz621 on 12/12/2008
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By Geoff_Bland on 12/12/2008
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Never doing it with anyone but Dilz from now on. wub.gif

By Dilz621 on 12/12/2008
Yeah we good sex

By Back to Own on 13/12/2008
3 kills, like 2-3 hours
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8.4m

By Sativas on 13/12/2008
Nice job.

By Sithofwookie on 13/12/2008
Wow bto lol I don't know what to say.

By Randy on 13/12/2008
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WIN

(1 hour, 3 kills)

By Geoff_Bland on 13/12/2008
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I definatley think that 3 kills if better than 5.

By Billy on 13/12/2008
Dang im getting on this today!!!

Anybody want a partner tonight? lol

By Back to Own on 13/12/2008
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^fail

9.6

By Ragingwealth on 13/12/2008
Looks like cool profit o;, better abuse it before Jagex finds out

By Geoff_Bland on 13/12/2008
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Too bad Zuriel's top doesn't sell frown.gif

By Stokenut on 13/12/2008
Nice, you guys have been getting some good loot. Keep it up (y)
I might suggest that on the first death, the dying player loses 76k, just to give the chance of dfh/dfs drops. For the rest, 26k's. Reason being, after the first drop, some of your drop potential is used so it can't be maxed on the 2nd kill.

By Geoff_Bland on 13/12/2008
Good idea Steve. Just did another 3 kills and my luck seems to be rising neko2.gif
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By David on 13/12/2008
3 Kills with Mickey:

- Zerker Ring
- Mystic Mud Staff
- 2 Glories (4)
- Worn-out Dragon Gaunts
- Obby Maul
- Obby Staff
- Rune Kite
- 63 Rune Arrows (p++)
- 105 Nats
- 103 Deaths (forgot to put in trade)
- 101k cash

Totals to about 2.7M. Not bad for standing around in Black Knights Castle for a few hours.

By Billy on 13/12/2008
Standing around for a total of 5 hours, either at ardy boat or agili in wildy. And i get a total of 600k >.<!

That's from 8 kills, at different times.

Dont like me i see.

By Geoff_Bland on 13/12/2008
Your luck is horrible Billy frown.gif
My luck seems to be deteriorating
Latest one:
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By Mickey on 13/12/2008
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In total, I got about 2.7m, I gud, fanks hash.png

By Randy on 14/12/2008
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+Mining Gloves

1 hour, 3 kills

By Kyle on 14/12/2008
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Blah.

By Billy on 14/12/2008
Beats me Darth lol.

By Randy on 14/12/2008
GAME. SET. MATCH.

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By Chimpy on 14/12/2008
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ December 14, 2008 11:47 am)
GAME. SET. MATCH.

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You got that from 75k'ing?....nice O_O.

By For Sooth on 14/12/2008
Randy Wins. Was the otehr person donig 75k aswell?

By Billy on 14/12/2008
Damn you Randy damn you!

By Back to Own on 14/12/2008
Bad day angryhahs.gif.png
This was 6 hours
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Oh well, got my first brawling gloves (hunter)
10.6

By Bambaleo on 14/12/2008
now this is something new! hey i love it! as i can see our council loves it aswell! go break rules people, make more money if you are too dumb to find out about honest ways of making money! that's perfect.

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By Randy on 14/12/2008
QUOTE (Bambaleo @ December 14, 2008 03:27 pm)
now this is something new! hey i love it! as i can see our council loves it aswell! go break rules people, make more money if you are too dumb to find out about honest ways of making money! that's perfect.

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It's not against the rules, Jagex even encouraged it...

By Bambaleo on 14/12/2008
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ December 14, 2008 07:59 pm)
QUOTE (Bambaleo @ December 14, 2008 03:27 pm)
now this is something new! hey i love it! as i can see our council loves it aswell! go break rules people, make more money if you are too dumb to find out about honest ways of making money! that's perfect.

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It's not against the rules, Jagex even encouraged it...

i really REALLY hope that you're only playing dumb.

if you really think that jagex is encourageing ABUSING ( do you actually know why it's called ABUSING and not using???) something? if so..that i guess you aren't playing stupid.

By Randy on 14/12/2008
QUOTE (Bambaleo @ December 14, 2008 04:27 pm)
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ December 14, 2008 07:59 pm)
QUOTE (Bambaleo @ December 14, 2008 03:27 pm)
now this is something new! hey i love it! as i can see our council loves it aswell! go break rules people, make more money if you are too dumb to find out about honest ways of making money! that's perfect.

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It's not against the rules, Jagex even encouraged it...

i really REALLY hope that you're only playing dumb.

if you really think that jagex is encourageing ABUSING ( do you actually know why it's called ABUSING and not using???) something? if so..that i guess you aren't playing stupid.

"As an example, one way of doing this is to take 75k coins' worth of items, not protected by death or prayers, then go outside of a safe zone and train as normal (by training a skill of fighting NPCs), and avoid PvP combat. All the time you are doing this, not only are you earning XP from whatever activity you are doing, you are also increasing your drop potential. Once you have built up some drop potential in this way, you can get your PKing gear on and try to get a kill to claim your drop."

-Jagex

By Jayson on 14/12/2008
yea, its not against rules, its just a fast way to make money.

we risk cash going on pvp world, so it isnt easy.

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first time doing it

By Indivi2you on 14/12/2008
OMFG, GIVE ME THE DAMN MINING BRAWLING GLOVES!!

i did it for the first time yesterday.

afk'd about 2 hours.

did 3 kills on BTO (thanks)

loot:
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not bad, i'll try again today, its a good way while doing homework IMO
i hope to god i get mining brawling gloves :Z



By Jayson on 14/12/2008
lol saad, i got mining brawl gloves hash.png

should i go wilderness iron ore or jsut granite mine it

By Back to Own on 14/12/2008
Another quick run after anniversary
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11.4

Randy's drop still trumpts my entire week angryhahs.gif.png

By Billy on 14/12/2008
The past 3 days i make less than a mill from this, then i actually pk and the drops are even worse, getting drops woth 30-40k max, standing about in wildy for 2 hours for that kill is depressing, im just going to stand on ardy boat all night tomorrow, and if the loot is bad, im going to kick myself in the head.

By For Sooth on 15/12/2008
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Me and Isaiah

I beat him by about 300k

Other Drops

-Rune Platebody
-2 Glories
-Mystic Robe Bottom
-Obby cape
-Obby maul
-Rune Plateskirt
-90 Dragon Darts.

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By Randy on 15/12/2008
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ December 14, 2008 07:46 pm)
The past 3 days i make less than a mill from this, then i actually pk and the drops are even worse, getting drops woth 30-40k max, standing about in wildy for 2 hours for that kill is depressing, im just going to stand on ardy boat all night tomorrow, and if the loot is bad, im going to kick myself in the head.

You're doin somethin wrong man.

You got 75k+ on you the whole time?

By Redstormx1 on 15/12/2008
its not realy illegal or anything .

are we risking our 75k .. yes
and we are out there for anyrandom pker to kill.
it would be better for pkers if there are heaps of random people training everywere and not just a bunch of pkers in varrok. jagex mad pvp worlds for the whole worlds to be used and i reckon us training combat and agility in these world is helping pking ohmy.gif

By David on 15/12/2008
I'm really liking this whole system. It's really useful for me right now because I've got limited time on RS because of work and stuff, and I can just stand there for a few hours and make a few M if I'm lucky, whereas had I actually been killing Green Dragons, I may have been able to make roughly 1M in the same time. Very nice.

So far, I've made about 3.5M from this.

By Billy on 15/12/2008
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ December 15, 2008 02:36 am)
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ December 14, 2008 07:46 pm)
The past 3 days i make less than a mill from this, then i actually pk and the drops are even worse, getting drops woth 30-40k max, standing about in wildy for 2 hours for that kill is depressing, im just going to stand on ardy boat all night tomorrow, and if the loot is bad, im going to kick myself in the head.

You're doin somethin wrong man.

You got 75k+ on you the whole time?

Yup, i usually go out with 2k alchs, whip and some armour, averaging 2.5m.
And when im pking its even more if you add str cape and b gloves.

Im going for it 1 last time tonight, but im going to try a different approach instead of just stand there, use the air spell with minds, wing bolt or whatever it is, and have minimum mage bonus, and if someobdy wants to do it with me, we can just stand in the middle of varr skulled doing it for hours on end without worrying of dyeing, also a bit of mage exp without even trying.

By David on 15/12/2008
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ December 15, 2008 06:15 pm)
QUOTE (Kingrandy0 @ December 15, 2008 02:36 am)
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ December 14, 2008 07:46 pm)
The past 3 days i make less than a mill from this, then i actually pk and the drops are even worse, getting drops woth 30-40k max, standing about in wildy for 2 hours for that kill is depressing, im just going to stand on ardy boat all night tomorrow, and if the loot is bad, im going to kick myself in the head.

You're doin somethin wrong man.

You got 75k+ on you the whole time?

Yup, i usually go out with 2k alchs, whip and some armour, averaging 2.5m.
And when im pking its even more if you add str cape and b gloves.

Im going for it 1 last time tonight, but im going to try a different approach instead of just stand there, use the air spell with minds, wing bolt or whatever it is, and have minimum mage bonus, and if someobdy wants to do it with me, we can just stand in the middle of varr skulled doing it for hours on end without worrying of dyeing, also a bit of mage exp without even trying.

If you're going to do that, do it in the upstairs part of the South Ardy bank because if by some chance you do get attacked by someone else, you can quickly run downstairs to a safe-zone.

By Indivi2you on 15/12/2008
Had 3 hours of potential from doing homework yesterday.

got crap, but meh, i never expected anything. i never get lucky on these kinda things. still free 350k i guess?

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By Billy on 15/12/2008
I hate that you get crap like, addy arrows (p++) Who the hell will buy them at 1.5k each? I've got like 90 of them no chance of them selling tbh. Meh, i might just use splash all night on rats, do same tomorrow, and give it a go just before i go to bed tomorrow. Wish me luck tbh.

By Back to Own on 15/12/2008
QUOTE (X Gilli X @ December 15, 2008 04:06 pm)
I hate that you get crap like, addy arrows (p++) Who the hell will buy them at 1.5k each? I've got like 90 of them no chance of them selling tbh. Meh, i might just use splash all night on rats, do same tomorrow, and give it a go just before i go to bed tomorrow. Wish me luck tbh.

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By Dilz621 on 15/12/2008
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By Back to Own on 16/12/2008
Tried the 75k then 25k thing with my friend

I got shit, but then again I didnt have good potential.

My friend however:
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By Boogers102 on 16/12/2008
Hmm i think ill give this a shot. Its roughly 400k an hour. seems alright to me.

By Jayson on 16/12/2008
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best loot so far

4 kills from about 5 hours in non hot spot hash.png

By Stokenut on 16/12/2008
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45 minutes in wildy doing hunter.
1.5 hours duoing armadyl.


By Randy on 16/12/2008
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By For Sooth on 16/12/2008
that's a fucking awsome name! i want it!

By David on 16/12/2008
For items like Addy Arrows (p++) or Dragon Darts (p++), but a cleaning cloth to take the poison off. Easy.

By Ubg-Fcbruges on 16/12/2008
Nice guide, should try it once

By NightRawrs on 16/12/2008
You guys are getting luckyer sad.gif

By For Sooth on 16/12/2008
QUOTE (1colonel1 @ December 16, 2008 02:40 am)
For items like Addy Arrows (p++) or Dragon Darts (p++), but a cleaning cloth to take the poison off. Easy.

Reduces the value greaty. Take rune arrows (p++) 87k for like 37, then down to 20k

By David on 16/12/2008
Yeah, but the point was that certain items that are poisoned don't sell. Sure you could use them as junk, but meh.

By Back to Own on 17/12/2008
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+brawler gloves (fishing)

13.7 total since pvp update

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14.5m total

By Reticked on 27/12/2008
What the hell are brawler gloves?

By Redstormx1 on 01/01/2009
use poisoned arrows as junk when you do 25k trick tongue.gif

By Zooby69 on 01/01/2009
you need like 50k of junk tho. its based on the game values not trade value.

By rachellove9 on 01/01/2009
Cool. It hasn't been updated?

By Squelchyfish on 08/02/2010
Does this still work.
I guess no, but i can hope.

By Mickey on 08/02/2010
QUOTE: Squelchyfish @ February 08, 2010 08:23 pm)
Does this still work.
I guess no, but i can hope.

It's pretty much the same for BH.

Nice bump btw tongue.gif

By blizzardn2 on 10/03/2010
i dont completely get but i might try

By sgtswordfish on 10/03/2010
does this even work anymore?

By Quikdrawjoe on 10/03/2010
This still works in modified form.

By sgtswordfish on 10/03/2010
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe @ March 09, 2010 11:06 pm)
This still works in modified form.

what's the modified form?

does it involve other people?

By WG_Keanu on 10/03/2010
QUOTE: sgtswordfish @ March 10, 2010 05:16 am)
QUOTE: Quikdrawjoe March 09, 2010 11:06 pm
This still works in modified form.

what's the modified form?

does it involve other people?

Yeah - 76k triangles. Person 1 kills person 2 kills person 3 kills person 1.

By sgtswordfish on 10/03/2010
wat about gaining ep?

By Quikdrawjoe on 11/03/2010
QUOTE: sgtswordfish @ March 10, 2010 05:54 am)
wat about gaining ep?

EP is the same.

By gamecubelord on 20/08/2010
Does this still even work hash.png?

By WG_Keanu on 20/08/2010
QUOTE: gamecubelord @ August 20, 2010 01:50 am)
Does this still even work hash.png?

Sort of. It's basically 76ks, although DP and previous kills now have an effect.

By markenzie1 on 21/08/2010
meh, they nerfed it.
i think there is more to be made at green dragons=D.

By demomc on 21/08/2010
will try out in the morning, cant wait



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