Reqs 105 f2p?

We only have a few members that are under the requirements of 105 f2p. And lets be honest its not that hard to get from 100-105 too. Its less then 1m exp and most of us can get that in a weekend.

I want everyone's opinion on this.

79 Ludo_Slayer 104.83
80 Chimp_Guy0 104.33
81 Arctic_Rat 102.97
82 Rachellove9 102.73
83 Mojohaza1 102.13
84 Dieyou2000 101.92
85 Nirvanas_Guy 101.9

Most of you are already close

This is a suggestion im just throwing it out there dont get defensive anyone.. unless its trainin then train defence yeah thats kewl #

No. Why would you even want this?

I think it would be a great idea to raise requirements.

Definatly. even though i am only level105 f2p combat myself, i can see how it make wars a lot harder when its even opts and they are 115+ clan or a 110+ clan and we are only a 100+ clan.

I think it's time WG raised the bar.

No. We've currently got some intros that are barely 100. And if you really want to raise the cmb lvl, waive that requirement for those with current intros and are planning to join WG.

I still don't think you should raise it until Rachel has at least 105 cmb.

I believe that it is stupid to raise requirements. We have a decent amount of recruits that are trying to intro/apply at 100 combat as it is, and then they have a month to attend events and gain 2 combat levels. Raising the requirements to apply is only for show and will only lower recruitment.

Some of us have something called a life and don't enjoy spending every moment training, especially when they prefer to train through slayer, which isn't exactly the fastest method of training.

I am on for events, I am on for wars. If you say my life hinders with my activity in WG, then something is wrong. I am more active with events and such than many of people.

Personally, I think it'd be nice, but, I don't want to just say "Yes" and leave it at that. First off, I don't just want to make Requirements 105 F2P. I would import a system like...100 F2P to get Guardian, 103 ish or something to prove activity on RS, etc. Also, they would have to be combat goal-bound, so they could hit that 105 F2P +.

I'm not sure about this. It'd have to a clan decision. Also, I don't want to force a member like Rachel out of the clan because of new requirements. I would allow fair time for all these present members to get to 105.

Lefty you're over 105 ftp so it won't effect you.

I see you in runescape more then like 4 hours a day and i thought you runecrafted a lot during game. This isn't about you btw.

I would have no problems with raising the requirement, except if there is a threat of those members who currently do not meet the requirements getting kicked.

In other words, no retrospective requirements, the 105 combat applies to future members, not current ones.

I say bring back Pro Silentium or something similar to it.

Bringing up the combat requirement might not be the best thing to do, though. With all the new recruits we're getting, we need to teach them the ways of war. I've seen one of our level 120's get koed (NOT NAMING WHO). We just need to teach people how to tank effectively, and eat the food right. I found there's a good trick if you have a mixed pizza/swordfish inventory, you can eat 3 half pizzas and 1 swordfish in one turn, healing a TON of hp.


tl;dr-we need experience in wars, not levels to do good.

No. We have tried it before.

WG is fine as a 100+ clan.

Give people a month to get 110+
The ones under 110 always seem to complain about getting piled first in wars/getting piled in PvP first.

Kiwi and Colin remember it.
Requirements were raised before several times, and not only did it piss me off, but it slowed down recruitment massively.

I will shut down WG before I ever raise requirements, that is a promise.
This topic is therefore redundant. I am not accepting negotiation at all.
However I will justify myself.

The reasons for saying no are listed below in order of importance.

One
WG was made as a clan for all. It pained me to keep raising requirements and cutting people out. WG got really elitist and higher levels slowly started considering themselves more important than players below the requirements on RS... and it still happens today. We see a level 50 and we go "They don't know as much about RS as us nor do they have the levels" and we discard them as inferior players, when we forget that we were level 50's once. WG is not a clan for all, but I want to accommodate as many people as possible. The 100+ requirement is the lowest they can go to ensure that we still appear as a top clan. Any lower and we'll be seen as a noob clan.

Two
Having tried this before, I can safely say it will harm the clan. It will require six members to train up... and in return we lose a lot of recruitment. We get a lot of recruitment from people below 105. It's a very competitive clan world and WG has 100+ reqs which are lower than the reqs for other clans, so this makes us a more feasible option for a large base of players who get put off training to meet requirements. We will lose a lot of competitiveness if we raise to 105, since there are a lot of other clans out there with 105 requirements. Another reason previous raises didn't work was because the community degraded somewhat. I have done several requirement changes in the past. 60 combat, 65, 70, 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 105, 108. EVERY SINGLE TIME, there was a steady decline in community and morale. It's not irreversible but it changes the entire dynamic of the clan. Beyond 100, we're not an all-rounder clan any more. We're a combat based clan.

Three
We are validating the assumption that we will only value the lower levelled members if they train for WG. That is very wrong.

Four
A requirement raise is training by force and not training by encouragement. By all means recommend training, but this is being too demanding. Positive reinforcement. Reward training, but never punish for lack of training.

Five
This is only a minor one and is hardly worth mentioning, but it still has a small impact on my decision. It would require a re-write of at least half a dozen various documents over the forum as well as the clan website. This would consume time. Like I said, I am not scared to do work, but it IS a factor.

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This stance cannot be argued, at all.
I will not budge.
If you want a requirement raise, overthrow me.

Omar, thank you once more for trying to put your energy to WG's benefit, but you've struck another tricky spot with me. Hopefully third time lucky.

maybe dont raise requirements but more training defently has to be encouraged.

1)if we get more matched opts wars this will anger them and make them train.
2)also when they get piled lots in pvp and loose rune they will train

Either raise them or force new members onto a strict training regime until they reach 110 combat. If they refuse/don't make it, who is the one who doesn't care? The clan that gave them a chance or the member that refuses to train to benefit their clan?

As low levels, then they end up feeling like crap because they get piled first, lose their rune, cry because they're a low level thus in most cases poor and in general don't enjoy pvp/cwa.

Requiring they are a higher level, OR, requiring they train after joining on a set programme till 110 is what I feel would benefit WG.