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By Havochaha on 10/01/2009
Im not having fun in wg anymore. Not anyone's fault so this might be one of my first leavings where its not from a fight. Im done sorry.

Thanks for the memories guys.

Ok more detailed post it is.

Ive been doing a lot of thinking. You know the kind of thinkin where your like what am i doing whats the point where am i in life. Those kind of questions. And ive noticed something about my presence in wg. It feels more like a job then a family or a clan. Not that i dont like it but if im going to be workin gwhile having fun i want it to be very productive (thats how i am i expect thins to come out from work). When i try in wg it just goes down the gutter. Wg has lots of potential but never uses it.

So yeah i dont like writing topics.

I love wg it still is my family and thats why im hoping for ex member.

Also to everyone ill still be looking out for wg dont worry smile.gif.

By Colinwarrior on 10/01/2009
No. You can't leave.

By NightRawrs on 10/01/2009
Don't be silly sad.gif

By Ragingwealth on 10/01/2009
QUOTE (Colinwarrior @ January 10, 2009 10:17 pm)
No. You can't leave.

No. You can't leave.

By Back to Own on 10/01/2009
dry.gif

By Kgmb on 10/01/2009
wow wtf no Omar sad.gif

By Mickey on 10/01/2009
I expected, but can we get a proper explanation?

By Kyle on 10/01/2009
Have fun with whatever you do :\

By George on 10/01/2009
Wtf?
I don't understand...

By ArSeNaLfAn32 on 10/01/2009
Damnit Omar. Good luck, wherever you go. We'll talk in PM.

By spanthrax on 10/01/2009
while im not important enough to you to convince u to stay, i do wish that we stay in contact because your a really good friend and i wish you the best where ever you go. just dont join a nh fag clan like df di vr etc



By Mojohaza1 on 10/01/2009
QUOTE (Ragingwealth @ January 10, 2009 10:20 pm)
QUOTE (Colinwarrior @ January 10, 2009 10:17 pm)
No. You can't leave.

No. You can't leave.

No. You can't leave.

By Robertw56 on 10/01/2009
Wtf? You just had Trial Raid Leader, would of sucked if you got the position then did this don't you think?

By Narita on 10/01/2009
random, just stay

By Dilz621 on 10/01/2009
...Omar...noo

By T Dwag on 11/01/2009
Man Omar I love you man but if you're enjoying yourself it would be wrong to make you stay. You were a good friend and a good person in general with lots of dreams. Good luck where ever you go, you got lots of potential =D


Rock on mate.
Brandon

By Geoff_Bland on 11/01/2009
QUOTE
Im not having fun in wg anymore.

+1

By Lee on 11/01/2009
Joel, your gay, Moar, your not leaving. Simple as.



By Indivi2you on 11/01/2009
hahano.gif

By Renegade3540 on 11/01/2009
I know that I've disagreed with you on things to do for the clans sake. But don't get me wrong. I don't hold any grudges against you as a person.

If you're no longer having fun then it is not up to us to hold you back. Best of luck with whatever you go to do =)

Keep in touch and visit #wg_Lobby once in a while okay? ;P

By rachellove9 on 11/01/2009
wub.gif Omar, you just got promoted to higher and the council all knows how hard you work at clan stuff. With this major issue coming up with the clan world, I would think it would be more interesting to you.

I'm training combat more now because your encouraging to me. Now what will I do with out you around with me.

By Dorcha3377 on 11/01/2009
People are hard to figure out sometimes. You have tried your best to help out this clan so now you are giving up?

By Troll84 on 11/01/2009
When people run for a position of leadership and don't get it, and then leave shortly afterwards claiming other reasons really do make me angry, because until a week ago they'd have been willing to accept halfop and really work for the clan, but now as the opportunity is no longer there they see no more reason to remain, not even to keep helping despite lacking the position of overall power.


Anyway Omar, it's a serious shame to see you go... Hope you take the time to think carefully about it over the next three days.

~Mugger84

By Reticked on 11/01/2009
wtf omar :/

By Ubg-Fcbruges on 11/01/2009
Don't be so chaotic about things... sad.gif Why not stay and do the thing you want to do? smile.gif

By Havochaha on 11/01/2009
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ January 11, 2009 07:48 am)
When people run for a position of leadership and don't get it, and then leave shortly afterwards claiming other reasons really do make me angry, because until a week ago they'd have been willing to accept halfop and really work for the clan, but now as the opportunity is no longer there they see no more reason to remain, not even to keep helping despite lacking the position of overall power.


Anyway Omar, it's a serious shame to see you go... Hope you take the time to think carefully about it over the next three days.

~Mugger84

Ask anyone thats known me from the old wg and youll know that i would never leave over that bull shit reason

By rachellove9 on 11/01/2009
QUOTE (Havochaha @ January 11, 2009 05:42 am)
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ January 11, 2009 07:48 am)
When people run for a position of leadership and don't get it, and then leave shortly afterwards claiming other reasons really do make me angry, because until a week ago they'd have been willing to accept halfop and really work for the clan, but now as the opportunity is no longer there they see no more reason to remain, not even to keep helping despite lacking the position of overall power.


Anyway Omar, it's a serious shame to see you go... Hope you take the time to think carefully about it over the next three days.

~Mugger84

Ask anyone thats known me from the old wg and youll know that i would never leave over that bull shit reason

I see where Muggers point comes from Omar. But I know your not a person to quit so easy. Don't give up on WG. We are doing much better. Things are going in the right direction. Stay and be one of the unstaff that gets stuff done.

We both know the members really have the greater power. The staff is only as good as the members are. They will be good leaders with good members and if crap members then we get crappy WG.

Talk to me about being one of the "Wild Movers and Shakers".

By NightRawrs on 11/01/2009
Omar i know you're upset at the moment, but you're in the best position you've ever been in WG, you're a higher gaurdian who has so much more potential and everyone knows that. If i were in your position i'd of thought about leaving for sure, but then i'd of realised how much more i can get out of WG, you may not have got raid leader, but you're a good person, and you can do it next time round if you put your heart into it.

Seriously, you're one of my best friends in WG and you have been for a while, you always make me smile when i'm not feeling good, and you're one of the reasons i stuck at doing raid leader and you know it. You're so helpful to everyone. If you're upset abought the training like i know you are, there is another post in level 3 discussing it and we are going to carry on with your idea, and sort it out.

If you leave WG you will really regret it Omar, and i'll miss you so much. Please stay! wub.gif

By Chimpy on 11/01/2009
All I can say is dface-ani.gif madeoface.gif tface.gif woeh.gif 1393.gif frown.gif tighthug.gif

Seriously Omar, you're awesome. Plus I will no longer have a masta 1393.gif.

Come back to us! And if you don't, Good luck with whatever you do.

<3333

By Billy on 11/01/2009
Mugger i know that happens with some people, but i think youve got it wrong wiht omar.


Dont leave, i will miss ur abuse of me.


Ill lick you toes < Best reason to stay evor!


iloveyou

By Rick Hamm on 11/01/2009
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ January 11, 2009 02:48 am)
When people run for a position of leadership and don't get it, and then leave shortly afterwards claiming other reasons really do make me angry, because until a week ago they'd have been willing to accept halfop and really work for the clan, but now as the opportunity is no longer there they see no more reason to remain, not even to keep helping despite lacking the position of overall power.


Anyway Omar, it's a serious shame to see you go... Hope you take the time to think carefully about it over the next three days.

~Mugger84

Let's see what happens when you lose your Council status Mugger. You don't understand because you've never been in that position. THAT is the difference. I know exactly what Omar is saying because I've been there and have done that. It gets real boring and overwhelming at the same time to give all you can to try and help the clan better itself only to be shunned time after time. Nowadays people don't give a shit around here. They do what they want, when they want. People come up with ideas only to be muted. How much are members supposed to give??

Omar, you're a great friend and I hope you make the decision that makes you happy and content in your RS career. Whether it's here or not, you can still count on me.

By Troll84 on 11/01/2009
QUOTE (Rick Hamm @ January 11, 2009 03:18 pm)
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ January 11, 2009 02:48 am)
When people run for a position of leadership and don't get it, and then leave shortly afterwards claiming other reasons really do make me angry, because until a week ago they'd have been willing to accept halfop and really work for the clan, but now as the opportunity is no longer there they see no more reason to remain, not even to keep helping despite lacking the position of overall power.


Anyway Omar, it's a serious shame to see you go... Hope you take the time to think carefully about it over the next three days.

~Mugger84

Let's see what happens when you lose your Council status Mugger. You don't understand because you've never been in that position. THAT is the difference. I know exactly what Omar is saying because I've been there and have done that. It gets real boring and overwhelming at the same time to give all you can to try and help the clan better itself only to be shunned time after time. Nowadays people don't give a shit around here. They do what they want, when they want. People come up with ideas only to be muted. How much are members supposed to give??

Omar, you're a great friend and I hope you make the decision that makes you happy and content in your RS career. Whether it's here or not, you can still count on me.

Don't you dare to presume I have no experience with failure in these sort of situations. Personally, In my last clan, I attained the rank of Vice Leader, likely could be compared with secondary leader here. Then, over a complicated issue I lost my rank and became a basic member once again. I sucked it up, got on with it and after a few months of working hard I was of the rank of 'Leader'. I know how it feels to lose out on your position, and I stand by what I have already said, had Omar gotten the position, we would not be seeing a leaving post from him at this time.

~Mugger84

By Zlatan83 on 11/01/2009
Can't say im not surprised.

By Ragingwealth on 11/01/2009
Omar, check out how many replies you got, come on, you deserve to be a raid leader, even though you didn't get it you can work your way back to it.

I also know you have other reasons, so please, talk to me first l:?

QUOTE
Can't say im not surprised.


It's 'Can't say I'm surprised', dumb ass laugh.gif

By Rick Hamm on 11/01/2009
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ January 11, 2009 11:04 am)
QUOTE (Rick Hamm @ January 11, 2009 03:18 pm)
QUOTE (Mugger84 @ January 11, 2009 02:48 am)
When people run for a position of leadership and don't get it, and then leave shortly afterwards claiming other reasons really do make me angry, because until a week ago they'd have been willing to accept halfop and really work for the clan, but now as the opportunity is no longer there they see no more reason to remain, not even to keep helping despite lacking the position of overall power.


Anyway Omar, it's a serious shame to see you go... Hope you take the time to think carefully about it over the next three days.

~Mugger84

Let's see what happens when you lose your Council status Mugger. You don't understand because you've never been in that position. THAT is the difference. I know exactly what Omar is saying because I've been there and have done that. It gets real boring and overwhelming at the same time to give all you can to try and help the clan better itself only to be shunned time after time. Nowadays people don't give a shit around here. They do what they want, when they want. People come up with ideas only to be muted. How much are members supposed to give??

Omar, you're a great friend and I hope you make the decision that makes you happy and content in your RS career. Whether it's here or not, you can still count on me.

Don't you dare to presume I have no experience with failure in these sort of situations. Personally, In my last clan, I attained the rank of Vice Leader, likely could be compared with secondary leader here. Then, over a complicated issue I lost my rank and became a basic member once again. I sucked it up, got on with it and after a few months of working hard I was of the rank of 'Leader'. I know how it feels to lose out on your position, and I stand by what I have already said, had Omar gotten the position, we would not be seeing a leaving post from him at this time.

~Mugger84

Quite frankly Mugsy, I believe we would still see a leaving post from Omar. You can only take so much. Look at the other people who had obtained leadership only to step down not long after. You think you're making a difference, or can make a difference, then find out your opinion really don't amount to much afterall. It's not a very easy thing to take and I'll stand by my opinion. What happened in your other clan has no basis here. WG is, and always will be, a cut above the rest. We have different issues, different morals and different members. What's good for your last clan, or what worked in your last clan, may not apply to here.

By David on 11/01/2009
I could honestly see this coming from a mile away.

Omar, I really hope you didn't take my comments as me saying I'm against what you're trying to do, because I'm not. I'm actually all for training. I'd personally love to see WG soar to the heights you've envisioned. I just think we should pressure or semi-force people into training. I know you've come to realize that calling people lazy won't do it and you changed your approach to finding out what it would take, which is good. You made a guide for one of the fastest places to train in the game. That's great.

What you're not including is the fact that some people just don't genuinely like training. I mean, it's not like all of us participate in Skill of the Week, or if the Skills Olympics come around we're all gung ho about it. Some people are, and some aren't.

We've just got to find that balance between training and skilling. I think deep down that is really what you're after. That balance of where it's not a task for people to train. Where instead of "Fuck I had to train again?" it's "Alright, I'll do a run at the zombies, get a quick 150k exp and then get back to WC," once or twice a week.

I really suggest you stick around, talk to me in PM because we've got similar goals, and I think we can really help each other.

By Havochaha on 11/01/2009


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