George W. Bush

See ya

I smell a flame session.

It's about damn time.

shhhhhh

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HAI OBAMA

Bye Bush! Pop into the irc now and then.

Flame and you get warning levels #

I saw this comming

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

For extra smooth throwing

Bye!

You know, you guys really don't know what you're talking about. It certainly hasn't been a bed of roses with any other president of our generation. In 4 years, you'll be saying the same thing about Obama. Of course, I'm looking at this from an entirely different angle than the rest of you, which shouldn't be a big surprise. I give Bush alot of credit because if it were me in the Presidency, there would be two new lakes in this world....Lake Afghanistan and Lake Iraq.

Hindsight makes everyone a Nostradamus. Remember when the Clinton administration left, and stole the 'W' off every keyboard in the White House on the way out? Too bad they can't do something like that for Obama just to be cheeky, they'd get pissed on by the media.

Bam, you can't even comprehend what I'm saying, can you? Re-read my post and you'll get your answer.

posting in epic thread

I for one, liked Bush as president of America.
A few years ago, I thought he was stupid, but he's actually a pretty good guy.
I think everyone just hates him because he looks stupid, and the fact that everyone says "Bush is a crap president" spreads from person to person.

It's the same with Tony Blair for UK XD, we always had times where we'd just flame Tony Blair for the heck of it, but when his 10 years ended, we missed him

But anyway, GL to Obama! I think this should be quite interesting.

Lmao @ Ubg's post.

~Abs

love you see ya later bush

I'm gonna quote something my Grandpa sent me in an email. It pretty much sums up my feelings.

Dont the the door hit you on the ass on the way out.

Yah but Abs to be fair, we only miss Tony Blair now because fucktard Gordon Brown took over...

Bam, from my military background, I can say this and say it honestly...I will do whatever the President says, when he says to do it. That's my job and that's the job of countless other VOLUNTEER people who fight day in and day out for the freedoms of America. Do I want to be over there, yes and no. Do I agree with why we're there?? It don't really matter if I agree or not. It's MY brothers and sisters in arms who are dying for a cause we believe in. We weren't forced to sign the dotted line when we enlisted. It was what we wanted to do with our lives. To give back to those that have served, and died, before us. To continue the legacy as the best damn country on this Earth.


Matt...I love your post!!!! Pretty much puts things in perspective and sheds a different light on things. Things that most kids, or adults for that matter, don't or will never understand.

bye bye u war monger fucker..

hai mr president obama!

lol

As a child of a US Diplomat, I can relate to Matt's post. I get to see the USA from a totally different point of view. Last spring break I was in Paris for a week. I went to the Rodin museum and a group of American women sat down near the table I was sitting at with my father and little brother. All those women did was bitch an moan about other things. How the clerk didn't tell them there wasn't any coffee, how the people are so rude to them, it went on and on. I could only help but think, "Did you even try to speak their language? Did you even say "I'm sorry, I don't speak French, but could you please tell me...," or did you just walk up to people and expect THEM to speak English to you, a tourist? That little experience basically encapsulates why the rest of the world is always ragging on the USA, because we really are a bunch of spoiled brats. We expect EVERYONE to bow to our every whim. We want lower taxes, so we bitch and moan about that. We want out of a war, so we bitch an moan about that. We want this or we want that, we bitch and moan. Why? Because it works. That's not to say that sometimes it isn't needed, but really, for everything we're unhappy about? Grow up.

Given all that, I'm still not pro-Bush. I was personally happy to see him finish up his term and have Obama take over. I didn't agree with anything Bush did, nor do I agree with many of the things he's praised for. A popular response from someone who is a Bush supporter is "Well, since he took over, we haven't been attacked." Yeah, I know. Do you really think that those attacks are planned overnight? That's why. It's not like they woke up that day and decided to do that, it was coordinated. The pilots were trained to fly that low. They had to think through what type of material to use for their fake bombs to scare the passengers on the planes. They had to find a proper material for their makeshit knives so they wouldn't set off the metal detectors. They didn't just throw that stuff together the night before and hope for the best, it took careful planning. That's just one topic though.

On the topic of the war itself, I am not a supporter of the war. I am however a supporter of the troops. I would rather the war not go on, but seeing as it is going on, I'll support the troops that have to die for it. Like Rick said, it's a completely voluntary duty. Rick's mentality is 100% spot on. That's the way the military is. In a very simplistic view the military doesn't think, it does. If the President says attack, they will attack, if he says stop they stop. No questions asked. While living in Newport RI, my dad attended the Naval War College. He was able to converse with members of all the service branches in an environment where they were free to express their views, namely their feelings of unhappiness about the war. What was so interesting was that despite their personal opinions, if they were ordered at the very moment to go to Iraq, they would do it. They could be mid-sentence, saying how they feel the war was initiated for personal gain and they would go.

I'll post more, because I need to sleep...

This topic was meant as a joke, and note it's in a public forum, so really any flaming after this I'll lock it.

My input though, after reading what Matt said, it's true Bush wasn't a terrible president, but I don't exactly think he was exactly good either. Our economy is shit, my family had planned a vacation over Christmas break but we decided to cancel it because the prices to travel are just ridiculous.. gas is ridiculous.. On the topic of gas, did Bush even look into alternative fuel? I'm not a political expert here but from what I've seen on the news he didn't..

Hopefully Obama can fix the current messes

Matt, that is a disappointing you would post such garbage. That is not David Letterman, it is an Internet hoax.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/hitnail.asp

We take alot for granted in this country, it is true, however my problem with the hoax article is its intent. It is trying to get people to accept bad leadership and abandon their civic duty to hold our leaders accountable for their actions. What hypocrisy, I cannot think of any better way to take our freedoms for granted than by not using them, and I cannot think of any better way to take our prosperity for granted than by using it as a sedative for political inaction and indifference. I really could not care less if someone passes me off as ungrateful or a whiner, we have freedom of speech in this country, and that is not something I am going to take for granted.

I wish Bush a happy retirement on his Texas ranch.

I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE INVADED AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ FOR OIL. THAT'S ABOUT AS IGNORANT AS TYPING IN CAPS FOR EMPHASIS. Are we pumping free oil out of Iraq? NO! Now let's move on with our collective lives please!

I hate TV, I think the news is so slanted that you will never know what the truth is. The newspapers aren't much better. So who can you rely on for the truth and to know what is going on? I ask friends and family who work in DC. I talk to friends who serve in the military. I see what the prices of milk, eggs and gas are. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the media has its own agenda. Don't rely on the media to form your opinions.

If I could change any law in the US, I would change the Senate and House of Representatives length of service. Those jobs were never meant to last a life time and line the pockets of men with the American people's money.

Bush did an okay job, not the best. I still have many things that I can be thankful for. I hope the new president has great success.

I loved Laura Bush for first lady and the new first lady has a good fashion look. So it will probably be an interesting 4 years. She even shops on the internet.

Hello

Well Matt I personally hated the state of the US Bush put us in, and how we are hated by every single other country in the world (I'm sure every non-American on these boards can testify to that).

And since my mom just lost her job she's been at for 17 years last month, my family is experiencing a financial crisis.

More and more people are going to be laid off. If you're not unhappy about that, Idk what you'll be unhappy about.

It's very easy for you kids to point the finger at the person in charge of the country, however, you're missing out on something very important. While he is the President, he still has to gain the confidence in Congress in order to do anything...including declare war.

I'll put it in terms that most of you meatheads will understand....Lordy declares war on other clans and we get our asses kicked, or let's just say we do win...what exactly are we fighting for here? Prestige, power, money? So, if I take your sentiments on this subject and say that Lordy sucks as a leader because we fight in pointless wars and he don't do anything to help our economy, you'd blast me to hell and back, correct?

I'm sorry to use that as an example and it's not the way I personally feel, however, I think it sends the message perfectly.

It is clear that people have definite opinion about former President Bush. History will eventually judge his actions. In my opinion, he should have worked harder for a diplomatic solution before taking unilateral military action. However, the situation in Iraq demanded action in a manner similar to Hiltler's actions in Europe prior to WWII. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

Before you ask, no, I do not think the war was right but remember hindsight is 20/20. Absent, the action taken by President Bush how many more innocents would have paid the price.

And Rick thank you for serving...

Why isn't this topic locked, an even better question is why was this topic started?




Brandon

Apologies Karl, it was in an email from a family member, so I didn't research behind it.

The point is not to teach acceptance of bad leadership, but to keep everything in perspective. Yes, you might be going through hard times now, but you should still step back and be thankful for what you DO have. We ARE truly blessed as Americans, and generally speaking, take that for granted.

I thought this topic was ment to be a joke not a political debate
Cool it off please (:

I wasn't talking about soldiers, i mean if we leave iraq etc, it just gives them all the time and freedom to plan future attacks on our countries, would you rather that?

We should stay longer, if we leave now, it will just mean they can have the ability to prepare better, and alot more damage will be caused to us, they will be free to bomb anything they can. The intelligence we recieve from iraq is what stops it atm.

Basically its too late to pull out, the terrorrists are pretty pissed atm.

PALIN 2012!