New Forum: The Trial's Gauntlet of Strength

Yes Randy, I agree totally. LOL

Starting out as a new member, it could be confusing in which direction to go towards.
But your mentor should point you in the right direction should you stray off the path a little.
But then again, from my own experience, mentors can be a bit inactive at times
So I think this would be very good, if it's like how we've done the application system, the topics all numbered. Links to other important topics.
Then it will definitely be helpful.

Chop chop!

~Abs

Unlike you I always type properly in IRC and in forums

So good fight to you mr 'ill jus go ess emm dee mike's pns'

Even more Corney than Wilderness Guardians?

only gays like lee do that. i dont have time to type properly and every1 knows my spelling sucks so get over it,

No new forum, just move that board and make it a sub-board in the new forum.

We've got really a huge lot of guides that it's understand because the information is just too much, our ARPK rules are in the general forum, the hello's forum doesn't get enough attention because let's face it, people would rather say their goodbyes to their friends than post in the hello's forum, which makes it hard to spot a new member joining.

You misunderstood, we move everything related to trials in the new forum, while condensing the guides. except for the ARPK rules, they should remain in the general forum and in the new forum as well.

Mentoring is fine work, but not all mentors are the same, their methods differ. They still remain as mentors to help out and guide the new members, but the bulk of info can be found in the new forum.

It does add one thing: Better Organization regarding trials.

Why not? A mentor is supposed to guide the member if he ever has questions about certain things, help him out in blending with the community.

Mentors can still drop the usual reminder PM's and check up on his posts/behaviour individually. Because for all you know, he might have missed few things, it happens quite often.

There is no replacement for a mentor though, because interacting with a person has a much different and better effect on a person than forum guidelines. A person helping out makes the mentee feel a lot better and blend in well.

Mentor + Forum = Recipe for better simplicity? What if a member accidentally deletes the PM? What if the mentor forgets to pm him a link accidentally? What if the mentor is away? Can a mentor give the same information as a guide, for example basics of warring? No, but he can help him understand the things the mentee has problems with.

Honestly, I don't see why it wouldn't be better to have a forum AND a mentor at the same time, it only makes things easier for the mentee's in the long run.

Well I always use proper english, why don't you go back to slayer gay boy LOL,

fuck off poor noob. lol

That's exactly the point. The mentor should be doing the work. The mentorship is supposed to show responsibility. The mentor is supposed to tell the mentee what to do, show him the ropes. Do all that, and direct him to important places.

Creating an entire forum simply for the trials would basically eliminate the portion of directing the trial to important places. There wouldn't be much in terms showing the mentee the ropes anymore because they'd all be laid out.

I think the way the guides are set up now is fine. Official clan guides are in one area, and general guides are in another. All guides are in the same place, very easy to locate. No need to move them. In terms of behavior, simple PM in and out of game accomplish that. Honestly, that should always come up in conversation with a mentor and mentee.

Mentor + Forum = consolidation. Not more simplicity necessarily. You go into human errors, so what if the mentee doesn't read the guides in his special forum? What if he doesn't go to the special forum?

If the trial deletes the PM, ask your mentor to resend it by going to his sent messages folder and sending it a second time. If the mentor forgets to PM him the link accidentally he's not doing his job to the best of his ability. If the mentor is away it's his responsibility to check with the mentee and let him know he'll be away and direct him to important stuff before he goes on leave.

Can the mentor give the same information as a guide? No, but I already agreed to that. I already said the mentor should direct the mentee TO the guides.

If anything, I'm just against the idea of creating an entire forum that chances are won't be used. Mentees will realize it's more of an information kiosk, so there won't be any active threads. I would be fine I with creating a sticky in the "Hello's" forum with an outline of basic rules and regulations for trial members, along with all necessary links to guides that are important for trial guardians.

Even then, there is no way to make sure they even read that. On the same token there is no way to ensure the trials do ANYTHING at all.

I still stand by my opinion that the mentor should basically do everything in terms of showing the mentee around. Direct him to important guides or threads. Tell him how things usually go in terms of events and such. Help make sure the mentee is on the right track for graduation and all that stuff.

Don't think I'm against the idea of making the trial process easy, but if we make it to easy, the mentor position loses a substantial portion of things he should be responsible for. We don't want to degrade the mentorship because then people might think "Oh, well they've got everything they need really, no point in helping them."